Tom, what's your Auto-Response secret?!?

[cledford]

I downloaded and watched the video and noticed that your auto response never seemed to chop - how'd you do it? I'm putting LX in an AR mag this weekend to see if it helps - otherwise I inevitably end up short stroking and chop every 10 ball.

What was your secret?

-Calvin

[RobAGD]

Cal - He made his, Not Proteam :)

Thats why HIS works

-Robert

[AGD]

Actually there is a secret.

First problem is feeding the thing fast enough. You might be able to see that I had two batteries on the hopper. This was the first of what came to be the dual battery Revi.

Second problem was getting rid of the eye delay so this gun has a micro switch in the trigger frame that actuates the hopper every pull. OH YEA we call it an Intelliframe now! It only took 10 years for the paintball world to catch on.

Lastly the best trick is in the trigger pull. Because most people are not engineers, they tried to make the trigger pull on the AR frames as short as possible. Of course it was uncontrollably fast and blended paint but heck that's what everyone says to do.

My gun has the LONGEST possible trigger pull so the rhythm is easily controllable. Remember, at 6 pulls a second you are shooting 12 BALLS per second. 6 is nothing, your momma can do that! You don't need a short trigger pull, look at the vid again and see how far my finger moves.

I absoulutely LOVED and ADORED that gun! I still have it in that exact configuration and it remains my favorite gun of all time. Why? Because its the fastest shooting MECHANICAL gun on the planet. It has controllable firing rate, you can dial the BPS out the barrel like a volume control because it's so easy to shoot. And last but not least it is absoulutely, positively, unstopably the fastest two shot snap shooter in existence.

That gun was TWICE as fast as all the other guns of its day. That would be like taking the field now with a 22 BPS Angel and going to play rec ball. I could mow the lawn with that gun! We played woods ball and if you hid behind bushes...I could just cut a hole through and get you. If you hid behind a tree I could pound you so bad you just took cover until I walked up still shooting and did you.

The only reason I put it down was because they made it illegal. Damn I miss that gun...

AGD

[sygyzy]

Where can I watch this video?

[Wc Keep]

how can i borrow this gun?:p

[Creative Mayhem]

I remember those triggers, and yes EVERYONE had to have a short pull. I know a guy that had a long pull like Tom's and just like Tom, he could "mow the lawn" with that thing. It definately was a sight to behold. I'm right there with ya Tom, when you say "Damn I miss that gun.."

C Mayhem

[cledford]

Tom's post is what I love about AO, I loved reading that :)

Mine is a Pro-Team - as Rob suggested I'm sure the quality control might be an issue. I hope level 10 helps it out.

Mine is super easy to short stroke, but does have a long pull.

-Calvin

[Muzikman]

As Glenn Palmer would say... it's not a micro switch, pull the trigger:)

[Jason Reed]

Hey,
Tom could you be so kind and post a pic of the gun for us,
please

[Brian68mag]

bump

[Automaggot68]

What? Who? I want, and I do not understand!!! The Crap is an AR mag? God i feel Stupid. Can somsone post a link to that Marker, or a pic,or something? Maybe somethign to shed some light on the subject?

[Manuel_FZR]

Hey, where can I download this video? WAnt to see an AR in action ... I have also one - and it rocks ;)

[azzkikr]

I too would like to see this video, were can we find it tom. sounds awsome. later AZZKIKR

[AGD]

Here is the vid, its actually from the Vintage TK Video thread stuck on top.

AGD

http://www.automags.org/~TomAGD/Kaye.wmv

[azzkikr]

thanks tom that was a cool vid. now I know what paintball was like when I was 11. hehe. later AZZKIKR

[Automaggot68]

Of coruse the dang thing is in wmv. format!! Curses!! Curse my Mac and I! Does anyone have any pics of his marker to post,or can they convert the file to mpeg, or am I hopeless and an idiot?:confused: :(

[cheetah256]

AR mag is an auto-response, basically it fired on the pull and release of each pull..i wouldn't mind having one of those frames : )

[Raptor3359]

how did that work if it was mechanical?

[coolcatpete]

how did that work if it was mechanical?
A crazy looking sear assembly.
Pete

[personman]

jeess, this thread is like 2 years old I dont think he really cares about how the autoresponce works anymore.

[coolcatpete]

jeess, this thread is like 2 years old I dont think he really cares about how the autoresponce works anymore.
oops it was linked somewhere and I did not realize it was so old.
oh well it was a good thread.
Pete

[Buff]

Holy thread resurrection

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

the video was interesting though :)

[BobTheCow]

the video was interesting though :)Very!!

[coolcatpete]

where could I get my hands on one of these
pete

[1ofkind]

LoL

[kopfjaeger]

Now that there a electros, can't Tom make AR not illegal. Maybe make an AR drop in trigger for the intelliframe.

[Python14]

Anyone know what kind of damage a gun like that paired with a warp and x-valve could do? 40 bps?

[Duck Hunt]

Whoa Tom....tuck it back in your pants.... ;)




Great video! Love the Red Barchetta in the background too!!

Sean

[Muzikman]

Now that there a electros, can't Tom make AR not illegal. Maybe make an AR drop in trigger for the intelliframe.

No, because tournament rules still state...1 ball per trigger pull (Trigger pull = Pull and release).

[kopfjaeger]

How about making it available for rec-ball players? Most people don't play tournaments anyway.

[HOMOCIDAL2]

I got two, one on a level seven using co2(with a good expansion chamber) and the other on a Smart minimag. They both rip. It's all in the rythym. Neither chop, and neither have level ten.