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[Smoken]

Hey all, I'm thinking about getting my little bro his first paintball gun for christmas. He hasn't played much because he's 9, but he really would love to play more. My question is, would it be better to buy him a cheap ACI Sinister for $99 or a mid-range gun (BKO, automag, autococker) that he can build up? Money and value is an issue.

[Will Wood]

A tippmann will never let you down. Upgradable and customizable. I would go with a Model 98 custom.

[Jonno06]

ide get him the BKO..

it is upgradable,comes with a reg,2 piece barrel,and blade trigger.

they also have a cap on them,and are cheap.

[Mr. T!]

spyder or tippmann. Either way they are both dependable and reliable.

[boomerfoxtrot]

dude..

get him an M3 Black Dragon !!!!!


they are sweet! best $100 I've spent! .. ok, outside my LX ... ok.. out side everything I've spent on MAG stuff..

=]

[AcemanPB]

Yes a Tippmann is a great beginers marker. They are built very well and are near impossiable to break. Also if you find your self lacking in fire power you can always add a RT kit.

[-Xugg-]

I'd suggest a Carbine or Model98, they are easy to care of and are fairly light and inexpensive guns. At Paintballgear.com they have gun/mask/hopper packages starting at 168.00

[Nomad]

Model 98 Custom hands down. Damn things are more durable then mags (really).

[yeahthatsme]

tippy i would say, easily cleaned and super upgradeble. plus there hard to mess up unless there is a factory problem and i think tippman has a pretty good warranty

[DiRTyBuNNy]

pick up a used classic mag..

[toymyster]

Absolutely go with a mid range gun, it will save you lots of money in the long run!! If he plays with any regularity, he will outgrow the low end guns within months!! then, you wil either waste money "upgrading"a low level gun, or buying a mid level gun anyway!! So just go ahead and buy a mid level gun from the start!!

[WicKeD_WaYz]

go with a basic spyder. They might not be as reliable as a tippman but they are far more upgradable. Besides a spyder is like the basic for all beginner paintguns. If something was to break everyone has spare spyder/clone parts laying around.

[FalconGuy016]

if you are sure your brother will keep playing, I would reccomend the mid range gun. I outgrew my carbine in two monthes


<img src="http://us.st8.yimg.com/store6.yimg.com/I/actionvillage_1718_186585432"> I've never seen the sinister before :) It looks nice, especially for $100

[Shirow]

I'd just get him something cheap too, while mags are nice, a stock mag in a 9 year olds eyes probably doesn't compare to a black dragun or something :)

Black Draguns are something worth looking at, as they don't really need any upgrades and have a semi-decent trigger for a newbie.

[Reo5th]

I would say black dragun also. The only problem is, unless they have something fast to feed them...they really are a blender. :(

[boomerfoxtrot]

get the black dragon and a revy...

the set up *other then the frame* is almost 100% the same as the spyder.. so they are easy to clean and fix...

I have a Black Dragon.. the one with the Exp Chamber, and the Reg, and it works great! I have an old EGG feeding it and I only chop if I fan the trigger... It's not my emag... so it's hard...

but for the $$$$ and what the gun can do.. you can't beat it!
the best, hands down $100 marker you can get...

[mykroft]

BKO or Mag.

BKO for HPA, Mag for CO2.

[pballguy17]

dude, get a black dragon they aer really sweet entry level gun. They shot nice, and the trigger is really sweet. it's great to start, and when he wants to start upgrading he can add a reg/X chamber, aftermarket barrel etc. the trigger is teh best entry i've ever seen, at my shop me and my frined alwasy screw around with one adn walk it and everything. defintly go for the dragon.

[Brak]

i play with a kid who has a black dragun, and it beats the crap out of the spyders everyone else uses. buy the black dragun for him.

[irs709]

they are reliable and good... they are also inexpesive.. id go w/ tippman..

[benzy2]

ok well if your brother takes good care of his stuff or you would take care of it i would look at a rainmaker. That will be enough of a gun to last him a while and when he wants more you can just gut the reg and add a new aftermarket one, Change the hoses to a high flow set, Add a few mods that help the looks out, a new board that gives you inreal rof and a new trigger/switch to help the rof in semi mode.

But if he is like i was at that age and is rough on everything i would go with a tippmann and drop a little more intro a rt when he wants to shoot faster.

my 2 cents.

[Smoken]

Thanks for all the input everyone. I know the tippys are bullet-proof, but I'd rather get him something that can keep up more with my dad and I's retro mags. I was considering the black dragun, but had heard a few negative things about. However, I value your opinions and if you say they're good I'll trust you. They're certainly cheap for the ROF I've seen people get out of them. So, my brother will probably end up with a black dragun. Once again, thanks.

[HIKARU]

if it is a newbie that has never played paintball, then go rental first....

if it is a newbie that has played paintball and likes the game and if money is NOT an issue but a MAG, air tank, and LEVEL 10.

if money is an issue, buy a low $ marker with c02.

[Creative Mayhem]

Mag with a Tippy a close second. Can't beat either of them. They won't let you down, just gas up and go!


C Mayhem

[cphilip]

I say a Spyder TL Plus. Looks a bit better than a Tippy in my opinion and they keep up just fine. Lots of upgrades cheap and work well on CO2. Or any of them Spyder clones is fine too. And a 12V revy too... he can keep up with you all just fine.

[Rooster]

Depends on your budget. A basic mag can keep right on growing with you as you have time and money. If you don't have the money get a model 98. They are virtually indestructable and the second most relaible gun made (second to the mag). I will never ever buy another spyder or spyder clone. I got nothing but trouble and shabby parts that couldn't hold up to the normal rigors of paintball play.

[AngelOfDeath888]

i've got two spyders compact deluxes java

[FalconGuy016]

so what did you decide to get? or ... have you not bought it yet!! :) cutting it a little close

[personman]

Tippmann or black dragun..
I played this past sunday with a tippmann, and it wasnt half bad..
Yup tippy is the way to go, but a piece of advice..
THE STOCK BARREL BLOWS!
Black draguns look kewl, I would try one of those too..

[Xerces]

i was always very pleased with my f4 illustrator. tippmanns do hold up very nicely, but during the first 2 years i had my f4 and didn't know anything about paintball, i don't think i oiled it even once. cleaned it out recently and shot about half a case of year old paint i found under a chair flawlessly.

[adam shannon]

spiders and spider clones are good...but not as the first marker you have ever owned. i cant tell you how many times ive seen a guy with a brand new spider have to clip the spring to get it under 290fps. just telling them they have to take it apart and cut the spring just to play the first time sends a look of panic thru them. ive also loaned my backup tippman to a dozen guys with broken spiders over the years. ive never seen a broken down tippman...with the exception of sniper wannabees with that horrible flatline barrel.
were talking about the first marker for a 9 year old kid. in my opinon a spider is too complex...and any electro is way out of bounds. let the kid learn on a durable beginner marker that will work all the time every time no ifs ands or buts. my 98 hasnt even been cleaned in 2 years...and still no problems.
ive always had a tippman around since the days of the smg 60. i will always have a tippman in my bag for those techno trouble days...or when playing in with newbies that are scared by anything with batteries.
just cuz im a sarcastic @$$...somebody mentioned above that everybody always has spyder parts lying around...cuz they break! how many of you have ever seen a broken tippman? i have never even seen a tippman part not inside a marker...cuz they all still work. if they still made 60 calliber balls i would go outside unhook the dog chain pull the smg 60 out of the ground where its been for 10 years acting as a stake kick the bolt open pour some oil on it and play with it sunday. you cant beat a tipp-lashnikov for durability and service life. not to mention ease of use.