O.K. People Here it is, The first sluggo

[FESTUS33]

Alright I hope I get the upload's right

[FESTUS33]

and another

[FESTUS33]

#3

[FESTUS33]

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[lillfroboy]

i like it

[Fatjon]

man that is so cool. Did you do it yourself?

[EsPo]

wow, thats awesome... how much did the milling cost you.

[Emagster]

one question. What happens with the barrel detent used to keep the mag barrels in? is it still in the rail or did you take it out?

[FESTUS33]

last
This is still a work in progress, but I had
to get some pic's up before I was lynched
by the Wisconsin contingent.
I know they're not the best pic's, but
let me know what you think of it.
I should have pic's of the completed project,
by monday
Rick

[FESTUS33]

Whoop's
I forgot the last pic.

1 Yes I did it myself

2 machining did'nt cost me .01
I own my own Bridgeport mill,
It's in my basement.

3 I am not a buisness {sp} I am
just a Machinist guy Who got lucky
when it came time for a machine to
be replaced.

I know that does'nt answer all the ?
but I'm a machinist not a secretary,
I"ll try to keep up and answer all
you're question's
Rick

[FESTUS33]

Try again

[FESTUS33]

YeahthatsFestus:eek: :eek: :eek:

[RetroEclipseMan]

That's pretty nice man. The body matches the rail real well. If It was annoed black it would really flow. One question, did you take these picks before the feed was threaded or does the hopper go directly into the body?

[FESTUS33]

?4
No the barrel detent has been pressed out
its EASY just press it from the bottom side
of the rail.
Rick

Hey Mod's can we make this the official thread
for pic's of finished Sluggo's.
Rick

[RetroEclipseMan]

Oh, I guess it was just me then. The glare on the inside of the feed hole made it look smoothe, like there was no threads. Oh well still looks sweet. Congrats.

[Quiet]

One word BEAUTIFUL!!!

Give youself a hearty pat on the back, that's some fine work

[magnj]

thats hot, well congrats on the first body, I wonder how it will work. do you plan on more milling?

[FESTUS33]

Yes the marker work's, it's been tested.
I have the OkieBob seal of approval.
as far as doing more milling
I prefer to deal with that in P.M.'s
Rick

[cphilip]

I LIKE IT! Nice and simple and smooth. You use a cocker detent? Sure I will sticky this up top! Lets roll!

[TippmannMan]

ok first of all thats awesome. i wish i had the knowledge and skill to do that. but two questions about the slug body. this is just an observation: the barrel pin/detent (whatever that thing is that locks the twist lock barrels in place) looks a little out of place. at first i thought it was the angle but it seems a little off. also im unfamiliar with the whole process but do you have to make your own feed neck? i never realized the feed necks were threaded. can you use other feed necks like angel feed necks?

[magnj]

i mean milling on your own slug

[FESTUS33]

What you see is not a barrell {sp} detent
it's an autococker ball detent.
Yes this boby is threaded for an Angel
feed neck, at the time of these pic's
my neck was still being modified by
my brother, so it's not installed yet.
I should have it tommorow, I'm looking
at making it a No-Rise that's why my
bro is doing what he's doing.
Rick

[RetroEclipseMan]

Tippmannman: That pin is the ball dedent that you're looking at. The new slug bodys have threads that accept cocker barrels so there is no use for a twist lock pin.

[FESTUS33]

Oh BTW
I just saw you CPhilip
Thank's for the Up.
Rick

[FESTUS33]

OOP'S
Yeah CPhil I used a cocker detent,
they're easier to find.
Rick
:rolleyes:

[petefol]

looks great, the only thing i would suggest is to smooth the back of the body where the valve is so that it wont look like it drops off, but smoothly transitions from the valve to the body.

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by magnj
i mean milling on your own slug
What like it can't be done, I think I just proved
that wrong. I'm just the kind of guy AGD made
this body for.
Rick:p :p :p

[TippmannMan]

thanks for the reply FESTUS33. if i got a slug body (long story but basically i need a new mainbody if want to change barrels and i prefer autococker barrels) is it ready to go if i just got an angel feed neck? in other words. did you have to do anything to make it usable. im seriously considering the slug if its that easy.

[cphilip]

He had to thread it to take the cocker detante. There was just a location hole when he got it.

[TippmannMan]

aww... :p i guess ill have to wait till the x-mag bodies come out then...

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by TippmannMan
thanks for the reply FESTUS33. if i got a slug body (long story but basically i need a new mainbody if want to change barrels and i prefer autococker barrels) is it ready to go if i just got an angel feed neck? in other words. did you have to do anything to make it usable. im seriously considering the slug if its that easy.

The slug will work as it comes from AGD, with everything
BUT the RT classic, and even that can be made to work if you know what you're doing. But a stock unmachined slug would be the fugliest marker you have ever seen. Anybody interested who does'nt have the knowledge or equiptment,
can contact me by P.M. and we could work something out.
Rick

[ChucktheMAGician]

Nice job festus, I've seen what your grips will look like to and you will have a sweet setup, can't wait till you get the feed tube in!

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by ChucktheMAGician
Nice job festus, I've seen what your grips will look like to and you will have a sweet setup, can't wait till you get the feed tube in!

Thank's Chuck
Heather just sent me pic's of the grip's
yesterday. I think they will complete
what to Me is the perfect setup.
BTW this marker w/this body is just as
light as my Tribal, which I parked when
Tom gave me E-Mag as gift for helping
test the E-mag prototype's. I've known
Tom for about 10 yr's and he has alway's
been just a regular guy to me.
Rick

[pito189]

Originally posted by TippmannMan
thanks for the reply FESTUS33. if i got a slug body (long story but basically i need a new mainbody if want to change barrels and i prefer autococker barrels) is it ready to go if i just got an angel feed neck? in other words. did you have to do anything to make it usable. im seriously considering the slug if its that easy.

You have to thread the hole for the feed tube for whatever feed tube threads you prefer. For example Angel or Autococker.

EDIT: I am still going to wait for the new sluggos that cover the valve. They will just give you more options.

Festus looks very nice.:D

[FESTUS33]

Everything is threaded except the
ball detent hole. But at least
they drill a pilot hole, so
location of the ball detent is
no problem you just have to decide
whether you want to use Autococker
or angel ball detent Then drill
and tap accordiningly.



Wow I drink I thunk too much

[IAMJaws]

Nice gun lines man, talk about garage spirit! I'm guessing you're going to anno it to match the barrel and denet. All they need to do is get it out for the classics and I'll be happy.

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by IAMJaws
Nice gun lines man, talk about garage spirit! I'm guessing you're going to anno it to match the barrel and denet. All they need to do is get it out for the classics and I'll be happy.

It will already fit on you're classic, the only rail
it does,nt fit is the RT and if you know what you're
doing that can be fixed too.
Rick

[magnj]

mmmmm, What color is your feed neck? and will you be anoe'n it?

[50 cal]

Does the feed neck hole come slightly undersized for threading? Or will you need to drill and tap it?

If it comes with 'cocker threads, is the centerline pretty much there? Is the centerline pretty easy to pick up and work from?

Sorry for all the ?'s. Will be getting a slugo after Xmas and need to get ready for it.

[personman]

Originally posted by FESTUS33


It will already fit on you're classic, the only rail
it does,nt fit is the RT and if you know what you're
doing that can be fixed too.
Rick
Yup, with the classic you can fit an E-mag body on with just a little modification, or none. I did it with none and it worked awesome.
That looks awesome FESTUS!!
Sup3r Sw33t.
:D

Oh an 50. Cal the Sluggo comes pre threaded for the angel feed tubes

[kevdupuis]

Looks great. I need to pick up a new or used RTP rail before I start cutting.

[FutureMagOwner]

cool but mine will be cooler when i get my slug and make the model in school. :p the only thing ill need is access to a tap lol. anyway if i cant get access to a cam can i send you the cad file and my slug and you mill and tap it for me?

[Spray Painter]

very nice. can't wait to see the finished pics:)

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by FutureMagOwner
cool but mine will be cooler when i get my slug and make the model in school. :p the only thing ill need is access to a tap lol. anyway if i cant get access to a cam can i send you the cad file and my slug and you mill and tap it for me?

O.k. I guess I failed to mention this body was done,
strictly on a manual Bridgeport mill. I didn't have
any drawing's or spec's prior to putting it on the
machine. This is just a pure expression of my Art
in machining, Even I could'nt duplicate it again,
I might get close but never exactly identical.
If you have an idea and a drawing I'd have to see
it to tell you if it's doable on my equipment.
P.M. you're drawing's to me and I'll let you know.
Rick

[FutureMagOwner]

eh accualy i was gunna make one based upon omnis concept in the old slug thread thingy. accualy i can probably get access to a mill seeing as how my mom works at a university and my cad teacher has connections

[FESTUS33]

Just so everybody know's
I have no intention of ripping off
anyone else's design's.
Any drawing's sent to me will be held,
in strictest confidence.
BTW Iwill have more pic's with the
feed neck installed as soon as my bro
figures out how to download his new digi-cam
and E-Mail's them to me :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Rick

[Kevmag]

Looks good. The angled front is a must in my option.

Can you tell use how much the body weighs (or just compare it to a std EMag body)?

Thanks - Kevin

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by Kevmag
Looks good. The angled front is a must in my option.

Can you tell use how much the body weighs (or just compare it to a std EMag body)?

Thanks - Kevin

I have'nt weighed the two bodies yet,
but I'll let you know as soon as I do.
Prior to this I was using a vert body,
that had the feed neck cut short to
function as a No-Rise with a Revy.
Since I use a Halo I had to put an
NW Paintball adapter on it, I'll weigh
the body with that on it. The slug is
getting an NW Angel neck that's been
cut and threaded as a No-Rise, so I'll
weigh it with that installed.
I'll let you know when I weigh them,
but just the way the marker feel's
right now I'd say it's definitly lighter.
I also have a Warp feed right body that
I'll weigh for comparison.
BTW any lefty's out there interested in
a warp body it's For Sale, give me a call.
Rick

[FESTUS33]

Well I got a chance to weigh the body's
this morning , the result's
1-Black powder coat Warp right=8.5 oz
2-Polished Vert W/NW adapter= 8.0 oz
3-Slug W/NW feed neck and ball detent=4.5 oz
That suprised even me, I did'nt expect
quite that big a difference.
I guess it really was worth the effort.
Tom I really want to Thank You for giving
me the opportunity, to make my marker
look so cool, and drop all that weight.
:cool: :cool: :cool: :D :D :D
Rick

[pito189]

I believe if you milled your rail and grip like this. It would make for one very light E-Mag. :D

My E :)

http://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=495820
http://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=495829
http://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=495824

Original thread.
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54331

[FutureMagOwner]

show off ;) jk anyway festus were you implying that stolen design idea for me?(thinking i was afraid of getting my cad file stolen? i dont have a problem with that and im pretty sure omni doesnt care seeing as how if i get a couple made id give him one)

[IAMJaws]

Thanks guys!!
one more: How thin can the body be milled safely??

[BTAutoMag]

the question is. whats the easiest way of attatching it to your warp? maybe tom can make a side feed version...

[AGD]

Rick,

Nice job!! Very cool for a hand mill! Now the last thing you MUST do is come up with your own name for it. We don't want all of them being called "sluggos" now do we?

We picked the sluggo name figuring it was so stupid everyone would name their own custom bodies right away.

Get to it!

AGD

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by IAMJaws
Thanks guys!!
one more: How thin can the body be milled safely??
The only measurement I made during the whole process,
was the thickness of the sides so I'd stay centered.
The finished thickness on the left and right sides
is .035
Rick

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by FutureMagOwner
show off ;) jk anyway festus were you implying that stolen design idea for me?(thinking i was afraid of getting my cad file stolen? i dont have a problem with that and im pretty sure omni doesnt care seeing as how if i get a couple made id give him one)
No I did'nt mean to imply that at all, I just wanted
it to be clear that if anyone wanted me to mill a body
to they're design that those drawing's would be held
in strictest confidence.
Kind of like a nondisclosure agreement with an employer.
Rick

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by AGD
Rick,

Nice job!! Very cool for a hand mill! Now the last thing you MUST do is come up with your own name for it. We don't want all of them being called "sluggos" now do we?

We picked the sluggo name figuring it was so stupid everyone would name their own custom bodies right away.

Get to it!

AGD

Tom
I figured I would call it the FSE {Festus Slug E-Mag},
I'm planning on talking to Heather, about making some
Jewel's for it :D :D :cool:
Rick

[FutureMagOwner]

i figured that i just wanted to clarify it :)

[SiLeNt X]

nice... how much would you charge for a mill and a mod for a rt body?

[BTAutoMag]

Originally posted by AGD
Rick,

Nice job!! Very cool for a hand mill! Now the last thing you MUST do is come up with your own name for it. We don't want all of them being called "sluggos" now do we?

We picked the sluggo name figuring it was so stupid everyone would name their own custom bodies right away.

Get to it!

AGD here's a good name... "the one" because as i know of this is the first one

[datapimp69]

and i allready bought www.sluggobodies.com

[TippmannMan]

where do you buy those (the www.sluggobodies.com ones) i love the second design reminds me of my model 98 :p do they do everything for you or do you have to still thread the ball detent

or do you mean you bought the site domain

[datapimp69]

i bought the domain,

and i am milling the bodys..


more to come soon......

[magnj]

lol nice. Have any actualy photos of milling?

[Emagster]

is anyone by chance buying a few and milling them and gettin um setup up and everything and then selling them? if so PM ME...i am very interested.

[BTAutoMag]

you bought a domain name to host 3 pictures... now call me crazy but if youre offering a service, you minght want to list some ways of contacting you. maybe a link to the page of the store where you can buy it...

[datapimp69]

well thats the idea.

its just a holder page while i make the real one.

yes the plan is to make run of 50 or so and sell finnished product.

body is at the shop waiting for a time slot in between production runs.

pic's will be up as soon as it is off the mill.

soon after x-mass...

[omni]

FutureMagOwner go nuts, I made a drawing so something like it could be made :D

My dad works in a Sign shop that deal with alumi and stuff like that, but I don't think they have anything like 3D milling machines, but I'll ask my dad to see what they have, maybe I can come up with somethig cool :D

BTW great looking mag!

[TheDuelist]

Any idea on pricing?

[FESTUS33]

O.K. I finally got pic's of the completed
marker. It's name is, FSE-LX
OOP'S pic's are to big too upload,
can anybody give me a hand getting
them down to size. I've only had a
computer for about 2 month's and I'm
still trying to figure this stuff out.
HEEEELLLLLPPPP!!! :o :o :o :eek:
Rick

[Dubstar112]

Are the pics .jpg or .jpeg? That is the best file extension to use. If they are currently .bmp or somthing else, open them in paint, and save them as a .jpeg .jpg . Thats one way to make them smaller.

Element_778@hotmail.com If they arent way TOO big, see if you can email them, and I will do my best.

[FESTUS33]

Sorry I forgot to mention that they're JPEG,
they were taken on my brother's
H.P. photosmart 812 digi camera then transferred
to CD-R. I opened the CD-R and transferred the
pic's to My Picture's file, I'm not sure but,
I think that when I try to send a picture, it
tries to send the whole file. I get this impression
because of the size of file it say's I'm trying
to upload. :confused: :confused: :eek:
Rick

[SiLeNt X]

cant wait!!

[FESTUS33]

O.K. these should work.
1&2 are complete marker prior
to removing toolmarks.
all the rest are as I will use it.
1

[FESTUS33]

#2

[FESTUS33]

#3

[FESTUS33]

#4

[FESTUS33]

#5

[FESTUS33]

#6

[FESTUS33]

#7

[FESTUS33]

#8

[FESTUS33]

#9

[FESTUS33]

#10 Last one
Now I need another Beer.:D :eek: :cool: :rolleyes:

[personman]

Nice.. you should do something with the battery pack & rail.. that would look cool..
You did an awesome job on that body!

[FESTUS33]

Personman
Take a closer look at the rail and you'll see the highlight's. As far as the battery pack goes I have
some plan's for that,But it would be nice if Tom
could come up with something smaller that would still
do the job. Tom!!!;) ;) ;)
Rick

[Spray Painter]

very sweet. when are you going to get a chance to use
it?(soon hopefully). i want a detailed report on how it preforms) :D ;) i like how you did the rail:)

[FESTUS33]

Should get a chance to proof test it,
this weekend:cool:
Glad to see someone noticed the
highlighted rail. How'd I do that?
{Trade Secret} you wouldnt believe
how easy that was. :p
Thank's for the compliment's
Rick:eek:

[EsPo]

i would prolly take that over an x mag if the battery pack/gripframe/body rail were milled more, and a nice anno.

[FESTUS33]

Alright I've been avoiding this question,
I'm not having it anodized.
I really like the way it look's right now.
Yes I eventualy see more milling on the
rail and battery pack, But just minor stuff.
Detail's,Detail's Detail's:rolleyes: .
Rick

[Timmee]

Not even clear anno to protect the shine? Won't raw aluminum oxidize if it isn't sealed?

[nuclear zombie]

I'm looking at a having a run of cnc milled sluggo bodies done if you are interested look here : http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60001

(bottom of page 1)

, pm me if you have any ideas or are interested in having your sluggo milled in the batch.



thanks
nuclear zombie

[sniper1rfa]

somebody should stick one on a lathe and turn it down to nothing. would probably have figure out a way to make the feed neck and detent look nice though.

[mag-hatter]

i want to see one that is very small, like someone said earlier. if you reduce it down to, not nothing, but down to something that is SHORT but has a little girth on it, with a bunch of twists and turns on it like fishbone milling or ripper milling then that would be really sweet.

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by Timmee
Not even clear anno to protect the shine? Won't raw aluminum oxidize if it isn't sealed?

Flitz :D
As much and as often as I use and clean my marker,
oxydation is never going to be a problem.
Rick:eek:

[Bonx0007]

no raw aluminum does not oxidize. that is one of the great qualities of aluminum

[Rusty]

Hey Rick
Is that what happens from ridding in the tank to many times? Maybe its a good thing I sold it. You might have come up with the first automatic main gun for the tank. looks very cool.
Freak:D

[FutureMagOwner]

erm wasnt the reason why aluminum never used until recently was because they didnt know how to get rid of the oxidation and when you make the pure aluminum it still oxidizes on the outside if i remember correctly

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by Rusty
Hey Rick
Is that what happens from ridding in the tank to many times? Maybe its a good thing I sold it. You might have come up with the first automatic main gun for the tank. looks very cool.
Freak:D

Hey Jim
:eek:
Ain't it cool, You know if the two of us sat down,
and brainstormed We could do it. It took me a while
to figure out who you were because I've only seen
one other post by you. What are we going to do for
armor come spring :confused:
Rick:eek:

[Rusty]

Actually I have not the slightest clue. Right now I am almost done building and ready to go back into racing Rc trucks.
Less hassel and it dont hurt as mutch.
Just need the propper funding and the tank will roll
I do like the gun. I have a 90 deg feed elbow if you cant find one. Is it true that they are not being made anymore?
Maybe Ebay is calling its name.
Freak

[FESTUS33]

Armour
Jim
North American Hunt Club has an ad in the
september issue of they're magazine.
New Argo 6x6 Conquest $500.00
And a web site www.argoatv.com
I havent been to the site to see what's
included for that price, I assume we'd need
to at least put an engine in it,
still not a bad price.
Rick :eek:

[Rusty]

Hi Festus
Thats a good price for an Argo even without a motor. If
I buildt another tank it would not be on a 6 wheeler though.
This place in Oregon has some cool units. "dieselcrawlers.com" They are auctual tracked units with diesel motors. I got all the info and with shipping these were 1900 dollars deliverd. I could put 3 times the weight on them compared to an Argo. I showed it all to Nikki and then Troy got involved and she backed out. These are the way to go. The driver would have been in the auctuall position for a tank with his own hatch, The turret would have been almost exact as to a real one. With working hatch. These were very cool. I got the welder and all the tools and equipment to do it right. Anyway that never materialized so the money I had set aside I spent else where. I even had more sponsors lined up to help out. All she had to do was get the unit. You know how much paint those draw. I bet 3 big games it would have paid for itself. Make that two big games. it would have drawn more people too.
I started helping out at another field up this way now. Have you seen a PUG yet? Mobile paintball armour suites? Its a walking tank. I will send you some pics later. Or if the creator oks it I will post them here. Justthink battle tech and your thier. Have a Merry Christmas and trust me never shoot skittles out of a marker! They hurt when they bounce back!
Freak Out.

[wallace9111]

i can not wait till mine is done. FSE power

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

FESTUS33, i am stunned with what a good job you did on that body. I couldn't do that myself in a million years. I'm partial to anodizing, even if it's just basic black, but the work itself is something I hope you're very proud of.
I saw mention about the next wave of sluggos that will be available. Does anyone know if the plan is for Airgun Designs to take the best designs or their own design and release it themselves in mass quantity? I'd love to have my own one done but I bet the manhours involved in them being hand-worked like Festus33's would mean they would cost well over $300 with parts and labor. Way more than I'm ready to spend. If someone around Boston is milling their own Sluggos and looking to sell one at a fair price, please get in contact with me, I would be interested. If anyone knows about AGD releasing their own bodies, please also let me know. Thanks everybody, and again, great work Festus.

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY
I'd love to have my own one done but I bet the manhours involved in them being hand-worked like Festus33's would mean they would cost well over $300 with parts and labor. Way more than I'm ready to spend.
If you buy you're own body I will do the milling at a rate
of $25.00 per hr. each body takes about 4 hrs. Then all you have to add is the feed neck and ball detent,
the NW Paintball neck run's around $30.00 and a cocker
ball detent goes for about $12.00.
wallace9111 is sending me his body right now and I am expecting it within the next couple of day's, I expect to get it on the mill Friday and have it complete and shipping back to him by Monday. I can do this because I don't
actually do this as a buisiness, {I just happen to have
a Bridgeport mill in my basement} and I don't have an overload of project's right now. Anybody who's interested
can send me a P.M. and we can work out detail's, Fair Warning! I can work to you're spec's as long as they are
compatible with manual machining practice's, Or like
wallace9111 you can just let me express my art with my
machine. A true one of a kind!!
Rick :eek:

[AutomagRT1483]

Hey Festus,
I finally got to see your gun. It looks so much better in person. I went out there to Sam's on Sunday to get my RT fixed. You won't believe what my problem was. I never turned my velocity screw in far enough. Atleast Steve told me I wasn't the first person to do that.

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by AutomagRT1483
Hey Festus,
I finally got to see your gun. It looks so much better in person.
__________________________________________________ __________
Thanks I was out there both day's, a lot of people looked
but nobody even asked to handle it? It's not like I was hard to find, what with my name on the back of my jersey
and all, Although saturday I did spend some time working
on the new field that we're building.
__________________________________________________ __________


I went out there to Sam's on Sunday to get my RT fixed. You won't believe what my problem was. I never turned my velocity screw in far enough. Atleast Steve told me I wasn't the first person to do that.


LOL in the ten year's since I got my first Automag,
I've done that a time or two.
I've even seen Steve do it, so don't feel to foolish
you're in good company. ;)

[FutureMagOwner]

hey festus i pm'ed you a few weeks ago and you never responded just figured youd like to know

and its good to hear that other folk got to see the first slug :)

[CaptaiN_JacK]

that is an awsome milling job-its nice to see such sweet & simple milling designs. i was looking at it nad thought that if the fee tube was shaped like this:

Feed tube:>
_____/ \_____

body^

that it would sort or flow into the body. just an idea

anyways awsome job!

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by FutureMagOwner
hey festus i pm'ed you a few weeks ago and you never responded just figured youd like to know

and its good to hear that other folk got to see the first slug :)
I P.M.ed you back on the 24th Christmas eve,
Send another one and we'll see what we can do.
Rick:eek:

[PsychoBaller]

Festus's custom smilees crack me up...... o.... while ur at it... Festus.... mill me a SFL/Xmag warp right breech module for my SFL......arrggg... waiting for AGD has its tolls on my saneness...... insanity... wutever.....

~da "4:50am posting" baller...... (been out at bars with mad old friends..)