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Dragoon

01-03-2003, 09:01 PM

I like the looks of the SFL better.

While we are talking about the 2 similar makers....

Do any of you know if the Xmag will have any features that are better or different from the SFL.

Not including the new valve :D
And keeping in mind the promise of free upgrades to the SFL that have been made (if you know what all these are a listing would be nice.

Douglas

PsychoBaller

01-03-2003, 09:22 PM

SFL Emag Vs Xmag...... main differences:

1. Milling is different (lol - obviously)
2. SFL version software 2.1 only has 2 modes... Off (0) and on (1)... while the Xmag has a third mode (2), mode (1) is for testing only and (2) for actual use.
3. While our SFLs still have Yellow Pins, Xmags will have switches (even though AGD is nicely modifying our SFLs to have switches now for free.. yay! thanks AGD u da best... I wanna have yo baby)
4. Xvalve comes stock for Xmags... SFLs stuck with Emag Valves... no biggie
5. Colors are different...fades for Xmags
6. Barrels for Xmags wont be P&P Custom Ano'd Dye Boomers like for wut most SFLs had come stock...from what I've heard.
7. Xmags will come with multiple breech modules i believe... SFLs just come with Low Rise.. even though Load and one or two others got custom machined modules for their SFLS

Thats all I can think of for now....

~da "information assistance" baller

1stdeadeye

01-04-2003, 12:41 AM

Had a chance to buy an SFL. Got this instead:

magman007

01-04-2003, 12:46 AM

how dare you!!!! lol

my choice on the sfl was this, i had a pore ordered x-mag, and have it now, well rob has it now, it will be sent to my parents then dansim shortly, i traded straightup an x-mag brand new, for a used sfl, a pollished blue to silver faded x-mag as well.

i like the sfl more, no 2 ways about it, it is a secier marker IMHO

to me, it is like doc martens over nike... just fits my personal style

agdemagman69

01-04-2003, 01:18 AM

that and the fact that there will never be more than 50 SFL emags :D

A.T.S

01-04-2003, 01:36 AM

I thought the x-mag had an ACE. Am I wrong?

agdemagman69

01-04-2003, 01:39 AM

both the sfl and the x-mag have an ACE

PsychoBaller

01-04-2003, 01:40 AM

Xmags have ACE stock standard... we with SFLs had to wait until Mr. Kaye gave the thumbs up... cause they weren't yet avail to us... but now we get ACE, LVL 10 and the change to a switch (instead of pin) all for free.

YAY! AGD rules... Still having AGD's baby... somehow.... errr.....

~da "once again confused" baller... hehheheh

fire1811

01-04-2003, 11:45 AM

i would take the either one that i could get my hands on first.

BajaBoy

01-04-2003, 12:10 PM

prob an sfl, i love agd and shocktech so the sfl would fit me well

magman007

01-04-2003, 03:13 PM

lets do it with pictures, i traded this http://www.robagd.com/xmags/blue-silver.jpg

for this http://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=492665

PsychoBaller

01-04-2003, 04:58 PM

even if they could be possibly wrong.... heheheh ;)
but in any case... I think that was a good trade 007....

o... check out the poll stats too..... poor us with SFLs... getting blown out by people who just love the Xmags....

"que sara sara" err something....

~da "fake french" baller

ß.C.

01-04-2003, 06:13 PM

SFL IT's MORE RARE!

1stdeadeye

01-04-2003, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by PsychoBaller
"que sara sara" err something....

~da "fake french" baller

Translation: What Sara Sara??:confused:

How do you know my little niece:mad: ?

;) :p

Nomad

01-04-2003, 09:59 PM

BOTH DAMMIT BOTH!!!

Oh wait.... Nevermind.

Pretty totally up to you. They're pretty just the same marker, just different cosmetically and one or two difference features. Oh, and availibility.

FalconGuy016

01-05-2003, 01:04 AM

what would I do for a xmag ...

AGH SO EXPENSIVE

PsychoBaller

01-05-2003, 01:58 AM

bah... u know wut i mean...

DeathscytheSK

01-05-2003, 02:33 AM

I would go with an xmag, I love the c&c bodies, they look badass, and if the SFL body gets jacked up, it would be hard to replace or fix it since its so rare

Dern

01-05-2003, 03:04 AM

Well.... SFL with the X-Valve :)

magman007

01-05-2003, 01:31 PM

you see its all personal preference. i like the look of the sfl better. that industrial look just grabbed me the first time i layed eyes on a sfl at the 2001 iao(where it debued sp?) its like this, industrial over curves. Punk over prep. Doc martens over nike, catch my drift? Thats just how i am, the raw industrial look of the sfl, is just so sexy. Trust me, look at the trade i made, the x-mag is also too plain for me a few curves and thats it. the sfl is milled so much more in the style categorie. look at the top milling on the 2, and you will see what i mean. I hope that explains my stance on the subject.

Dragoon

01-07-2003, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by magman007
you see its all personal preference. i like the look of the sfl better. that industrial look just grabbed me the first time i layed eyes on a sfl at the 2001 iao(where it debued sp?) its like this, industrial over curves. Punk over prep. Doc martens over nike, catch my drift? Thats just how i am, the raw industrial look of the sfl, is just so sexy. Trust me, look at the trade i made, the x-mag is also too plain for me a few curves and thats it. the sfl is milled so much more in the style categorie. look at the top milling on the 2, and you will see what i mean. I hope that explains my stance on the subject.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh.. and now there are only 49 SFL's.
One was changed into a "Chimera".

Douglas

Archangel Damien

01-07-2003, 01:50 PM

anybody know the price for xmag up here in canada i can`t find a price yet:confused:

manike

01-07-2003, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by magman007
the x-mag is also too plain for me a few curves and thats it.

You've never seen one in the flesh have you? "that's it" I think you just don't appreciate what is there. Or maybe you don't appreciate what 'isnt there'...

Originally posted by magman007
the sfl is milled so much more in the style categorie. look at the top milling on the 2, and you will see what i mean.

I'm guessing you prefer Ricers to Italian motor vehicles also huh? You want sharp edges and spoilers, instead of style, curves and sleekness...

Each to their own I guess. :rolleyes:

shartley

01-07-2003, 03:11 PM

I like BOTH, and for different reasons. As manike pointed out, they can be compared to cars…. And I tend to like any style of car when it is done right.

magman007

01-07-2003, 03:24 PM

Ah, manike, ive Told you before! Its an awesome design, and it is sexy, but to me the sfl means so much more! reserch my first thread, about which to chose, i told you that! Im sorry you took offence to this.

I saw the x-mag, and i was impressed, its just, the sfl has always ben my dream marker, im sorry to offend you like that, and im sorry you took offence to it.

THe sfl is alot like the older mag, not as pretty (in somes opinion, not mine) but looks good enough, and fucntions like a mofo outta hell!

Sorry again to have offended you, i still like the x-mag, but as i said before, id take the sfl any day.

I know you worked long and hard on that design, and that is alot of power to you! IM just all about the industrial look. sorry again manike, it is an awesome loking marker bro!

Please dont be angry- Bill

manike

01-07-2003, 03:30 PM

Maybe you just need to think about the words you use and how you express your thoughts. I did find it offensive, but that's ok I can take it :)

As I said, each to their own.

manike

magman007

01-07-2003, 04:30 PM

Simon, i re read that, and i can see how you found it offensive, once again, i am truely sorry for offending you, and i hadnt meant it to come across that way. I will pick my words a little more carefully next time.

I know you have pride in that marker, especially that little fillet on the back!

sorry again, i guess i would be considered a flax wench now? hehehe

Splat

01-07-2003, 04:50 PM

Canada, HA!!

Dragoon

01-07-2003, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by Splat
Canada, HA!!

Care to elaborate on your statement.

PsychoBaller

01-07-2003, 06:26 PM

Canada is a cool place...........to visit... but I'd much rather be shooting my SFL in da USA...

~da "not really Bruce Springstein's paintballing son" baller

Dragoon

01-07-2003, 06:47 PM

:D

While I'd rather shoot my SFL up here!

But hey, we are both in the "International Brotherhood of SFL Emag Holders". 50 members and holding!:D

Douglas

PS I like the red.

Archangel Damien

01-07-2003, 07:05 PM

the canada statement was do to me asking if anybody knew how much the xmags were going for in canada i have not seen any price up here yet

PsychoBaller

01-07-2003, 07:08 PM

technically 49... since Kila took his SFL to the mill and made it a SFL 2: Chimaera....

So are even more rare than before... heh...

~da "always feels special about himself" baller

magman007

01-08-2003, 12:10 AM

correction, 50 were never produced, the number was more around 35... 50 was what the projected batch would be ...

joeyjoe367

01-08-2003, 12:30 AM

Honestly, I feel the same way as SHartley. They're both really sweet lookin' guns.

if I was to be given one or the other, i would have to take the SFL, simply because they weren't mass produced like the X-mag is going to be.

TNS2k2

01-08-2003, 01:04 AM

If we were comparing the SFL/Xmag to cars i would have to say: Xmag is like a Ferrari, or Aston Martin Vanquish, while the SFL is like a Semi truck or Lori(for you manike) but it doesnt matter, each one suits someone elses tastes. I on the other hand would live with both, and i almost bought an SFL, but i chose the Xmag in the end.

And for the price in Canada as i have been told is about $2200 for the C&C and $2000 for the STD. that is what i was told and i am not sure. I picked one up from the US and it will be delivered to Skyball.

TNS2k2

PsychoBaller

01-08-2003, 04:34 AM

Any info on the original SFL batch led me to believe that there were 50 produced.....

Well in any case.. that just cuts down the number of Silver/Pewter/Chrome ones that were made... cause I tally up.....

2-3 Red, 1-2 green, 1 Purple, 1-2 Blue, 1 Teal, 2-3 black, and the rest being Silver/Pewter or Chrome.....

phat... in any case...

Benfica4ever

03-29-2003, 06:24 PM

I would definetly go with the x-mag.:D

Russ

03-29-2003, 07:05 PM

For me, it will be the X-Mag, in a fade, of course :)

@ magman007,

If you are from Chile, then must be from Sri Lanka...

Cristobal

03-29-2003, 07:17 PM

all I have to say is that it is a beautiful thing to see mag owners vigorously debating the merits of different milling styles! :)

magman007

03-29-2003, 08:05 PM

WHat russ? im confused.... IM not from chile BTW, im just here fora foreign exchange... i didnt get your shrilanka comment?

Russ

03-29-2003, 09:42 PM

Sri Lanka, just an obscure, non-paintballin' country, with no other significance...

The food in your fridge, well, it doesn't look very "Chilean" :)

Pile & A Half

03-30-2003, 12:09 AM

I'm an Angel guy, but if I had to choose I would go with the X-Mag. It would be very easy to adjust too from an Angel to a X-mag.

magman007

03-30-2003, 05:38 PM

AH That? that picture isnt my fridge! that is dansim's! he took it there before he got me the sfl! :)

sneakyhacker420

03-30-2003, 07:38 PM

i wanted that light green SFL that was up for sale a while ago... but i didnt have a job yet :(

now i gotta settle for a green x-mag...my only hopes are that tom will save #XT00420 for me :o

AutomagRT1483

04-01-2003, 02:17 AM

I'd rather have an X-mag cuz their dead sexy:) That and I ordered one about a month ago now.

Dayspring

04-01-2003, 01:29 PM

Magman knows my thoughts about the Xmag. :D

#218 baby.

cphilip

04-01-2003, 03:18 PM

Well I for one think the X Mag has a lot over the SFL. For one there is the roll pin that guides the valve into proper place and keeps it located properly and then there is the availablity of the breeches that seems to be a problem for SFL users. Plus there is no need for a special version of the Level 10 bolt. Nor any need to send it in for the ACE. The X is a tad lighter I think in the C&C version and its just plain sexier looking in my opinion. And then in the long run there is availability. The X has already surpassed the production numbers of SFL's.

Dragoon

04-01-2003, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by cphilip
And then in the long run there is availability. The X has already surpassed the production numbers of SFL's.

One of the reasons I like the SFL more than the Xmag. That and the more 'industrial' look. I'd rather drive a Hummer than a BMW.

Douglas

magman007

04-01-2003, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by cphilip
Well I for one think the X Mag has a lot over the SFL. For one there is the roll pin that guides the valve into proper place and keeps it located properly and then there is the availablity of the breeches that seems to be a problem for SFL users. Plus there is no need for a special version of the Level 10 bolt. Nor any need to send it in for the ACE. The X is a tad lighter I think in the C&C version and its just plain sexier looking in my opinion. And then in the long run there is availability. The X has already surpassed the production numbers of SFL's.

Well you see.... Phil. The Breaches are fine, origionally our breach tester, had his lvl 10 installed incorrectly.. THere fore, we all thought there was a breach problem...

The roll pin, no biggie, i think its easier to slide the valve in, line ut up, and put the screw in, but thats me, there is also a set screw that we use to hold our valve in tighter.

Truethfully, you guys are using the special lvl 10 bolts. Ours are origional sized, for the origional x-mags. Thats the size they were.... THen they redesigned....

Availability.... Ours were the first sold x-mags... we did your betatesting! And i dont know about you, but having something highly limited, that performs the same as your other markers, yet, is special in its looks, is special to me..

Again, i take doc martens over nike any day...