wallice9111 get's a new body, AKA how an FSE-LX is made Lot's and Lot's of pic's

[FESTUS33]

O.K. 1st year student's this is a Knee mill
commonly known as a Bridgeport.
PLEASE DO NOT POST UNTIL I HAVE FINISHED!!
Rick:eek:

[FESTUS33]

Setup prior to the tool touching the body.
Yeah Tom that's My E-Mag rail! any chance you could
send me a scrap mag rail to use as a jig, so I don't
have to risk mine anymore. P.M. me if it's possible.

[FESTUS33]

1st rough cut on 1st flat
this give's me a flat surface to work with

[FESTUS33]

Setup for 2nd flat {side}

[FESTUS33]

Finished 2nd side

[FESTUS33]

Setup to finish 1st side.
the side's of the body are the only
place I take any measurement's{No
Less Than .035 during machining}

[FESTUS33]

This was taken during the final cut on the first side,
the camera was fast enough to stop an end mill running
at 3200 rpm. Look for the chip's in the air.
WOW!! I've never taken a pic while I was cutting before.
BTW I need to thank my brother Randy for the camera,
and the downsizing of the pic's so I could use them.
D**n good Camera.

[FESTUS33]

Sorry I missed a couple of pic's, This is the front
angle cut. {I never understood why Tom did this until
I did my first Slug, It's easier to clean paint out
when you can actually get you're finger's in there.}

[FESTUS33]

Front angle finished ready to drill and tap for
ball detent.

[FESTUS33]

Drill detent hole

[FESTUS33]

Tapping Same

[FESTUS33]

Setup for 1st compound angle,
This is where the experienced machinist's eye
take's over and the true art begin's.

[FESTUS33]

2nd compound angle

[FESTUS33]

3rd compound

[FESTUS33]

final compound angle setup

[FESTUS33]

Final compound Finished

[FESTUS33]

This is a rough finished slug body

[Automaggin2]

That looks very very good! I like it when u had the body just squared off. I think AGD should make either a square body like the one in the pic at the top or a body like ur finished one. they both look really nice

[FESTUS33]

And another angle of it.
I'll post Pic's of the embellishing operation tommorrow.
O.K. You folk's can post now.
Thank you for waiting.
Rick:eek:

BTW wallace9111 what do you think so far.
It's virtually like mine but I can see the
differences. I'll take the ball end to it
tommorow or sunday, and see how I can embellish
it. You are getting a true One Off Body.

[wallace9111]

thats great!!!!!

I can not wait to see what you can do with the ball!

[Miscue]

That's awesome!

How long does it take for you to do one?

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by Automaggin2
That looks very very good! I like it when u had the body just squared off. I think AGD should make either a square body like the one in the pic at the top or a body like ur finished one. they both look really nice

The reason Tom does'nt do that is $$$$
It would greatly increase the cost of the sluggo.
He's had a hard enough time selling them as is,
it would be even harder for him if he had to increase
the price because of extra machine time.
H**l he already had to reduce the price of what he has,
in order to sell any of them.
Rick

:eek:

[Smoke]

Hmmmmmm......if only they made a slug body for a Classic.....

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by Miscue
That's awesome!

How long does it take for you to do one?

About 3 hr's on the mill, then I've got about another
hour to go with the polishing.
Rick:eek:


DON'T MILL YOU'RE TANK

[tranman]

Originally posted by automagfreek
Hmmmmmm......if only they made a slug body for a Classic.....

If i'm not mistaken, the slug body will fit ALL mags with the exception of the original Automag RT.

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by automagfreek
Hmmmmmm......if only they made a slug body for a Classic.....

The only rail the slug does'nt fit without modification,
is the RT classic and I can make that work too if you send
you're rail with you're body.
Rick:eek:

[FESTUS33]

Would You trust the man who built this,
to play around with You're Slug.
Rick:eek:

[Smoke]

OOOOOOOOOO..........

[FooTemps]

Will you try more expensive designs as you go along?

[Dern]

That is nice! How much are you selling the whole thing for?

[PsychoBaller]

u want to take my SFL to the Mill..... i have some ideas.....hehehehe...

~da baller

(edit: i really only wanted the dovetail on the bottom half of the battery housing milled off, as well as the section of body below the barrel.. but above the battery milled like how the Xmag is.. thas about it)

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by Dern
That is nice! How much are you selling the whole thing for?

UMMM!! Which Whole Thing

[Blazestorm]

the sluggo body, you should mass produce those... very nice and that machine you're using is cool you could do some pretty creative stuff if you wanted to :D

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by PsychoBaller
u want to take my SFL to the Mill..... i have some ideas.....

hehehehe...

~da baller
Geeezze You're already 1 of 49 you want ME to screw that up!
I understand wallace9111 is only 1 of 2 presently! but I do'nt think I want to mess with what you already have.
If you have another Mag that you want to Re Body P.M. Me
and we'll talk.
Rick:eek:

[FESTUS33]

O.K. Folk's
It's 2:10 A.M. and I'm going to bed..
I'll try to catch up tommorrow afternoon
since I have to go Trap Shooting in the morning.
Have fun with it, and I'll catch up later.
Rick :eek:

[bornl33t]

I honestly could care less about the slug-o... but that mill has me sooo jealous..... HMPF

[yeahthatsme]

hmm, festus you may be hearing from me soon.

[snakestang]

First off your bodies are looking great! Keep up the great work.

I do have some question for you though. I know this may sound silly but I have a drill press (nothing fancy) and I was wondering if I could do some small parts with it? The head at its fastest spins at 3100 RPMs. My main question is what type of cutting heads are you using? I am sure they are expensive but for what I want to do I would only need a few small ones. Is there a place I can purchase them at a reasonable cost? Or, will what I am using even work for what I want to do? Lots of questions and maybe I should just email you.

Thank you for your time in answering my crazy questions.

P.S. Wow I didnt know those machines weighed in at over a ton!

[edit]Will any of these work? Cutters (http://toolguy.com/toolguyendmills.htm) Thanks again.[end edit:)]

[FutureMagOwner]

festus check your pms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


anyway that one looks very nice aswell good job

[boggerman]

Snake, the spindle on your drill press is just not rigid enough to keep the cutting tool from moving around, they are only made to bore a hole, not to side cut. At least you would have a very rough finish with lots of cutter marks and at worst you could break the cutting tool (they are very hard and brittle) and mess up the part you are working on.

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by boggerman
Snake, the spindle on your drill press is just not rigid enough to keep the cutting tool from moving around, they are only made to bore a hole, not to side cut. At least you would have a very rough finish with lots of cutter marks and at worst you could break the cutting tool (they are very hard and brittle) and mess up the part you are working on.

Yeh I kinda left the thread hang for a while, cause I
got real busy with a bunch of stuff.
But Snake what boggerman said is true, and very few
drill presses have any kind of controllable motion
in any but the Z Axis. You need a lot more than that,
to consider doing one of these.
A knee mill is controllable in
X axis {side to side as you stand in front of the machine}
Y axis {front to back}
Z axis {up and down}
Z axis is actualy controlled in 2 way's,
you can move the quill like a drill press,
or you can lock the quill and move the whole
table up and down.
Even with this much control over what you're
doing, you end up with tool mark's that have
to be polished before a part can be called
complete.
Rick :eek:

[FooTemps]

meh! you're ignoring my question... :(

are you going to try out new designs?

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by FooTemps
meh! you're ignoring my question... :(

are you going to try out new designs?

Actually Foo
I thought I answered this, but I guess that was
in my other thread. Basically all my bodies will
have the same general look. But No Two Will Ever
Be Identical. If you have an idea as to how you
want you're body embellished, if it's do'able
on my machine without adding a lot of hour's
of machining time. Ive pretty much decided that
All AO'ers can can have my machining on they're
bodies done for $100.00 + shipping. If you want
me to install The feed neck and ball detent,
Those part's are extra $$.
We can talk about that in P.M.'s
Rick
:eek:

[FooTemps]

ohhh... so every design IS new... heh, that's cool how you're not really mass producing the same body but just similar looking bodies... Nothing radically different like a different shape then huh? I wasn't really thinking radically complicated. Just wondering if you were going to try new things in the future.

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by FooTemps
ohhh... so every design IS new... heh, that's cool how you're not really mass producing the same body but just similar looking bodies... Nothing radically different like a different shape then huh? I wasn't really thinking radically complicated. Just wondering if you were going to try new things in the future.

Well
actualy what I'm doing is basically the same on
every body I do.
But if you read the commentary on the pic's
you'll realize I only take 2 measurement's in
the whole process, Right side/Left side .035 minimum
everything else is done by EYE. That mean's My
20 yr's of experience looking at what I have on
my machine, and how it look's to me when I set it up
for cutting. So even though they may look the same,
no two cut's are ever going to be the same.
I'm just expressing my art through my machine.
Rick:eek:

[Smitty2k1]

I got a bridgeport mill at my school... alas, teacher already said I cant do any milling to any paintball markers... Even after school and such :(

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by Smitty2k1
I got a bridgeport mill at my school... alas, teacher already said I cant do any milling to any paintball markers... Even after school and such :(

I hate to say this about anyone but,
YOU'RE TEACHER SUCK'S, AND HAS NO IMAGINATION!!!
Tell him to look at both of my thread's and find
anything wrong with what I'm doing as a machinist.
OH YEAH! "Those who Can, DO", "Those who Can't, Teach".
Not Flaming you Dude, Burning you're "Teacher"
to the Ground.
Rick:eek:

[shartley]

Originally posted by FESTUS33
OH YEAH! "Those who Can, DO", "Those who Can't, Teach".

I understand that there are bad teachers. But there are bad machinists too… and bad cops… and bad Doctors.. and bad politicians.. and bad…… well, we all get the idea.

However, there are also GREAT Teachers as well. And if it was not for Teachers, there would not be a lot of the professions we see, and the skilled workers we have. Teachers take a lot of crap and get paid crap too for the most part, and have to put up with comments like that. Please don’t take this as a flame, because it isn’t…. what it is, is a reminder that not ALL teachers “can’t” do what they are teaching.

I for one have known some very smart and skilled teachers who could have made a whole lot more money DOING what they were teaching (and been damn good at it), but chose instead to pass their knowledge on to the next generation(s). Teachers are some of the most important people in any society……..

(Added: Not to mention that using School equipment for personal use may very well get that teacher in trouble. Unless he can tie it into an actual class and everyone benefits from it, he may not be allowed to even consider milling his student’s paintball markers. Sometimes things are simply out of people’s hands.)

[FESTUS33]

Point taken Sam

[EDIT] {GEEEZZEE!! Sam now you got Me writing novel's}

I guess the way I read it, this Teacher sounded to
me like he has "Gun" issue's. I find that hard to
relate to, having been brought up in a generation
where I was REQUIRED to take a rifle to school.
The class was called Hunter Safety, and it was
taught in school when I was a kid.
I understand with the rash of school shooting's,
that Teacher's are somewhat leary {sp} of anything
that may be remotely related to the shooting sport's.
But by the same token I learned how to shoot from
my father in 1965, I grew up in a house where neither
the gun's nor the ammunition was locked up, Because
everybody in the house was taught Proper Respect for
the consequences of using them.
I'm going to be 43 yr's old in 5 week's, and I have never
had to shoot anybody{Thank God} but I have on several
occasion's in my life had to make a show of loading
a live weapon. That's as close as I've ever gotten to
shooting a person, and the BAD GUY always backed down.
{Thank God Again}
Because if the BAD GUY come's into My house and does'nt
back down when he hear's that weapon "Racked", I will
Shoot and never have a guilty feeling about it.
I have had in several of my post's the statement
Gun Control mean's Hitting what You Aim At
I'm a Firm Believer in Gun Control.
I was a competitive High Power Rifle shooter
even before I started playing paintball,
and I still shoot enough matches every year to keep
my NRA qualification current.
Rick:eek:

[shartley]

FESTUS33 – I am sorry for getting you going… or am I? ;) Good post. You can substitute myself for much of what you just posted as well. Again… good post.

[FESTUS33]

Sorry Sam
I'm not sure where that Rant came from, I guess it's been
building up in me for a looonnnggg!! time. It was'nt aimed
at you or anyone specific, I guess it was something I had
to get off my chest and for some reason it "just came out now".
I do understand what you are saying about the fact that
there are Teacher's out there who could make a lot more money doing instead of teaching. But they see where they can make a contribution to the forwarding of Mankind
by teaching other's instead of just profiting by what
they know and can do.
"Too Much Beer For Me"
Rick:eek:

[shartley]

Rick,
Don’t sweat it. You are actually preaching to the choir on the other issues you brought up. I did not take your post as an attack on or at me, and actually enjoyed reading it. A LOT.

Enjoy your beer and know we are of the same mind.

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by shartley
FESTUS33 – I am sorry for getting you going… or am I? ;) Good post. You can substitute myself for much of what you just posted as well. Again… good post.

I'm not even sure what thread it was in but
"It sound's like you and me could have a lot
of fun together" You wrote that or something
very similar Sam and I believe that it is true.
I hope to be abl to meet you at the Mega AO day
or at IAO this coming year {unless you can get
closer to my part of the country before then}
either way I look forward to meeting you in person.
Rick:eek:

WOW!! have we gotten off the topic!
Give me about 35 min's and I'll have Pic's
of wallice9111's finished bod {unless He ask's me to
do something more, GEEZZZEE I'm having fun wit dis ting}

[FESTUS33]

OTAY!
wallace let me know what you're thought's are
#1

[FESTUS33]

#2
Not a real good pic:(

[shartley]

Thanks and I think so to (edited: talking about your other post, not about the pictures.. LOL). And hopefully this year I can find time to make it to SOMETHING.

Oh... and I just poured myself a nice big glass of wine, busted out the crackers and cheese and am watching movies! Life is good! :D

Now who has the damn shotgun?!?! ;) (sorry couldn't resist... :D)

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by shartley
Thanks and I think so to. And hopefully this year I can find time to make it to SOMETHING.

Oh... and I just poured myself a nice big glass of wine, busted out the crackers and cheese and am watching movies! Life is good! :D

Now who has the damn shotgun?!?! ;) (sorry couldn't resist... :D)
I had it most of the day {Shooting Trap League}

[FESTUS33]

#3
WOW that one kinda suck's too

[FESTUS33]

#4

[FESTUS33]

Well
wallace9111 let me know what you think!
I can do more if you really want me to.
Rick:eek:

[PsychoBaller]

Pretty....

I wish my money supply and flow was enough to buy another Emag..... specifically one of those FESTUS, very very nice.

wuts the final Emag gun weight with that body and no barrel - just the Emag itself?

~da baller

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by PsychoBaller
Pretty....

I wish my money supply and flow was enough to buy another Emag..... specifically one of those FESTUS, very very nice.

wuts the final Emag gun weight with that body and no barrel - just the Emag itself?

~da baller

With my stock E-Mag frame, Modified rail, and my
Nitro Duck 90" Mega Reg tank and drop - barrel
7 3/4 lbs.
I think when I get the Frymark battery pack and
finish doing the homespun ULE on the rail I'll
probably come in at 7 lbs even. Ill keep y'all
informed.
Rick:eek:

[wallace9111]

in-freakin-credible

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by wallace9111
in-freakin-credible
So You Like!
Notice I never did do anything to the side's,
if you really want something there I can work on it.
Rick:eek:

BTW you'll have a P.M. real soon

[wallace9111]

up for this body

people need to see the artist/machinist that is
Rick

Once again man the more i look at the more i fall in love i can not wait to see it first hand

BTW this guy is incredible for anyone thinking about doing business with him


DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great experience with him, communicated great, and has been honest and trust worthy this entire time.

Thank YOU

[TransMan]

Yo Festus what exactly need to be done to a slugo before it can fit a Classic RT i would liek to know cause im pretty sure my dad could do that for me if not then ill get u to do it after i get my Sluggo.

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by TransMan
Yo Festus what exactly need to be done to a slugo before it can fit a Classic RT i would liek to know cause im pretty sure my dad could do that for me if not then ill get u to do it after i get my Sluggo.

It has to do with fitting the round Pem nut on the
slug body into the rectangular hole in the RT classic
rail, It may or may not fit as is. If it does'nt,
it will be easier to fit the hole in the rail than the
nut on the body.
Rick :eek:

P.S. Thanks Will I really appreciate you're good word's.

[TransMan]

Pem nut..??? Ive never noticed a rectangular hole in my rail umm will there need to be any mods done to the sluggo for the RT valve to fit in it besides making the hole for the banjo bolt bigger?

[FESTUS33]

You dont have to do anything for the banjo bolt,
it does'nt have any contact with the body.
The Pem nut I'm talking about, is the little
threaded thing that is welded to the bottom
of the body that hold's the body to the rail,
with the screw through the trigger loop.
I hope that clarify's thing's for you.
Rick:eek:

Now that I think about it You might have to put
a small O-ring between the rail and valve, that
will fit over the banjo to seal everything.
It might be a little hard to find one the right
size, but I'm sure they're out there somewhere.

[TransMan]

ahh ok Thx that helps alot i think ill get one of the Longer sluggos TK said they would make next then start experimenting :D
*EDIT* also the fact that the RT valve is smaller in Diameter then the Retro or Air valve doesnt matter?

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by TransMan
ahh ok Thx that helps alot i think ill get one of the Longer sluggos TK said they would make next then start experimenting :D

Good Idea Trans
If you get the extended body, all you have to do is
bolt the body to the rail and mark it where the banjo
goes. Then dismount it and drill a slightly bigger
hole than the banjo bolt, find a drill that fit's
the banjo hole in you're stock body snuggly,
and use that. Should come out perfect.
Good Luck
Rick :eek:

[gcube]

wallice just sold me his emag cant wait till i get the slug body :) cant wait, thats the beutiful

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by gcube
wallice just sold me his emag cant wait till i get the slug body :) cant wait, thats the beutiful

Yah! He sent me a P.M. while I was at work tonight.
He's going to send me you're address, so I can ship
the body straight to you. I'm just waiting for my
brother to finish threading the feed neck, then I
just polish it install it and ship it. Should be
no later than Monday. If you have any plan's to
have it anodized, You have to let me know, so I
don't install the feed neck and I'll have to uninstall
the spring clip and washer.
Rick :eek:

[gcube]

polish is good i like it the way it is. thanks

[FESTUS33]

Here They Are
Pic's of the finished body,
it''s ready to ship monday.
gcube either you or wallace9111
need's to P.M. Me You're address.
Rick :eek:

[FESTUS33]

Another

[FESTUS33]

#3:cool:
SHINY aint It

[gcube]

looks good, thats tight

[FESTUS33]

#4:eek:

[FESTUS33]

#5:cool: :cool: :cool: :p :p :p ;) :D

[FESTUS33]

One Last one
My Brother and Myself were playing around
with his photo program,
this would be real neat if you could find
someone who could do it!

[gcube]

hey fest did u get my address

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by gcube
hey fest did u get my address


Yeah I was going to P.M. you last night, but when
I hit the send key My I.S.P. went down.
I will ship the body to you Monday via UPS ground.
I work 2nd shift so, I'll P.M. you the tracking number
early Tuesday morning when I get home.
Rick:eek:

[gcube]

ok, thanks fest

[WARPED1]

That's damn sweet Fest!Viva la pie!

[AL3X OAKL3Y]

can u make me one???? and at what price:p

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by FESTUS33


I thought I answered this, but I guess that was
in my other thread. Basically all my bodies will
have the same general look. But No Two Will Ever
Be Identical. If you have an idea as to how you
want you're body embellished, if it's do'able
on my machine without adding a lot of hour's
of machining time. Ive pretty much decided that
All AO'ers can can have my machining on they're
bodies done for $100.00 + shipping. If you want
me to install The feed neck and ball detent,
Those part's are extra $$.
We can talk about that in P.M.'s
Rick
:eek:
You Have too Supply the Sluggo, 2nd generation Slug's
Should be available in a couple of week's.
Keep your eye on the Online Store.
Rick :eek:

[FreshmanBob]

Festus, thats some damn fine work. Most definately my favorite sluggo design yet. All you need now is a site an business name so people don't keep asking the same questions and where you can post all those sick pictures.

Too bad I already have a milled aluminum body with cocker threading
:D

*love the micro!*

[gcube]

hey festus sorry it took so long to post a pic so here it is

[TKOMag123]

my dad wants to know what kind of maching center was used, what kid of software was used, mastercam? and why where the pictures were taken on a bridgeport? he thinks that you can't make that peice on a bridgeport.

[luke]

TKOMag123,
This is a Slug body made by AGD. Festuss33 did not build the ENTIRE body, he simply made flat cuts, then did the scalaps. (Which CAN be done on a mill.) :)

If you read the whole thread you will see that no "software" was used... ;)

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by TKOMag123
my dad wants to know what kind of maching center was used, what kid of software was used, mastercam? and why where the pictures were taken on a bridgeport? he thinks that you can't make that peice on a bridgeport.

All of the design came straight out of my imagination, and if he does'nt believe that that body can be made on a Bridgeport style knee mill, He,s more than welcome too come over {with a slug} and watch Me make another one.
I've been a machinist for close to 20 yr's, and the picture's posted at the beginning of this thread, were taken during the actual machining of this body.
Not trying to flame you're Dad, Just stating the fact's.
Rick :eek:

[Fatjon]

i dont know how he made it but it was one nice body. Sure did enjoy owning that piece of aluminum for the month that i had it.