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bluefan101
01-13-2003, 12:35 AM
I've been reading post from different people and trying to decide how to go about the conversion to nitrogen. I'm currently running an original mag with an A.I.R. valve using CO2 through a 3000 psi coiled remote. Then it goes through the duckbill and then to a 6 stage expansion chamber and finally to the valve. The transfers are made using steel braided cable. I'm also upgrading to the level ten bolt at the same time. I have been looking at a PMI 4500psi 88ci tank. If I go with the 4500psi tank I will not be able to use my remote, correct? Also, I'm not sure what the pressure is on my mag. I have been reading that normal pressure runs between 800 and 950. What do you guys recommend?

Dayspring
01-13-2003, 01:05 AM
A- Welcome to AO.
B- You may be able to use your remote if it is a screw in and if the pack is big enough.
C- Mag's will work fine on 800-950 psi.

Check back if you have any more questions.



Originally posted by bluefan101
I've been reading post from different people and trying to decide how to go about the conversion to nitrogen. I'm currently running an original mag with an A.I.R. valve using CO2 through a 3000 psi coiled remote. Then it goes through the duckbill and then to a 6 stage expansion chamber and finally to the valve. The transfers are made using steel braided cable. I'm also upgrading to the level ten bolt at the same time. I have been looking at a PMI 4500psi 88ci tank. If I go with the 4500psi tank I will not be able to use my remote, correct? Also, I'm not sure what the pressure is on my mag. I have been reading that normal pressure runs between 800 and 950. What do you guys recommend?

Nobody077
01-13-2003, 01:39 AM
Welocome to AO. As for the remote, if it is one of the Micro line coiled remotes then I would suggest not using it, it will restrict the airflow, but If its Macro line no problem, or step up to a SS braided remote. I would also suggest replaceing the expansion chamber with a gas-through grip as they are know for restricting flow,or just use it as a forgrip and run you braid directly to your AIR valve. As for the pressure a preset reg in the 750+ range will work fine.

bluefan101
01-13-2003, 02:00 AM
I am running a micro-line 3000psi remote. I was going to re-route my air flow to run from remote, to duckbill, to valve as suggested. I also noticed on the side of my valve "rated at 3000 psi," should I limit my N2 tank to 3000 or is that what the internal reg does? Also, I do have a braided remote, but I hate it..it's to stiff. If I decide to go remoteless, is there a drop forward or cradle that you recommend? If I stay with a remote, what size N2 bottle would best compare with the size of a 20oz CO2 bottle? I appreciate your answers. Thankyou.

Nobody077
01-13-2003, 02:31 AM
The "3000 psi" on the side of the air valve is just a pressure rateing for the valve(TK has said the reg could hold much more), you do not have to limit your tank size to 3000psi, any tank with a preset reg in the 750-1000psi range will be fine. As for N2 tank compared to 20oz Co2 size do you want to know physical size or shots per fill? Physical size would be equal to a 45ci tank but for shots you need a 114ci/3000psi or 68/4500psi tank. To figure shots for tank size do 10*ci for 3000psi and 15*ci for 4500psi (114/3000= 10*114 or 1140 shots 68/4500= 15*68 or 1020 shots)

bluefan101
01-13-2003, 02:36 AM
I was going for physical size, but thank you for the shot per fill info. I didn't know that there was that big of a difference. Once again, thank you for your input. I can now go out and make an informed decision!!