Pump Mag Guys its your LUCKY DAY!! Attic Sale!!!!!

[AGD]

Pumpers,

Many of you that bought Pump Kits for the Mag have asked about bodies and more importantly rails with the pump slots milled in. Guess what we found during inventory this year....

LOTS OF POLISHED PUMP RAILS!! We also found 3 (yes only 3) Polished Minimag Pump Bodies!!

While they last, all sales final, not responsible for anything.

Get them in the store: Pump Stuff (http://store.airgun.com/acb/showprod.cfm?&DID=17&CATID=21&ObjectGroup_ID=28)

AGD

[HoppysMag]

I LOVE YOU!!!!!!:D Comon tom, HUG TIME!!!!!!!

[EsPo]

NICE!!! i just need to find 60 bucks for a kit and a rail...hmmmm

[HoppysMag]

lol me too, i might also get a high rise cause its got pump slot too and is 100$ cheaper than those mini bodys

[Strider]

Whats stock like on the incomplete pump kits? Should I accelerate my plan to get one, or will they be around for a while yet?

[cledford]

Here is a link to a guy making the pump rods. If you bought a kit, had a pump-slot body, and just bought a rail -here is the final piece of the puzzle.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62908&highlight=pump+AND+rod

Attached is also a pic of the plans if anyone else is interested in making them.

-Calvin

[DiRTyBuNNy]

I'm waiting for Tom to find that box marked Dirtybunny with the blue2black fade dust X-Mag inside of it..oh well...a guy can dream can't he...

[AGD-OfficeGal]

This part has not yet been entered into our database, so we cannot process orders until that has been done. NO RUSH HANDLING on this part!

Marcia

Edited to add: There are over 100 of the incomplete pump kits still in stock so no need to fret on that score.

[cledford]

Marcia,

No problem - we can wait :) Most of us have wanted one of these kits for years - and they still won't work without the rod which Tom doesn't have, so it's no rush.

Take care,

-Calvin

[Strider]

Sweet, thanks Marcia!

[Jack & Coke]

How well does the automag pump perform compared to the phantom, carter, sniper II, etc. ?

Do you get the same amount of shots per CO2 cart?

Thanks!

[cledford]

Do you get the same amount of shots per CO2 cart?

I *highly* doubt it. I want to build mine "California" style with a bottle holder stock, thermal valve, and 9oz C02 bottle. It will not be a "stock class" gun. Even if it was efficient enough - it couldn't be legal as a stocker since there isn't a horizontal feed body out there. I've seen people make them - but it is no easy project.

Also, there is no "auto-trigger" and I've seen posts where people have locked up (requiring disassembly) or even damaged their markers by pumping/shooting to fast. Do a search in the tech forum for a post by thordic on this...

In short it will be fun to play with - but not much use for the true pump aficionado.

-Calvin

[sygyzy]

There is actually a sort of auto trigger. If you have the right trigger frame and you fire in the right pattern, you can skip pumping altogether.

[Muzikman]

Having had my pump mag for about 4 years now, I can say that it takes getting use to. I ahve never had a problem with mine except that it is now starting to go semi auto (back bumper and wave sprint problem). I handed the gun to NeroBro last year at Skyball and he proceeded to jam it. I personaly have never done this, but I can see how it happens. If you pull the trigger before the pump arm is all the way forward, you can jam the rod under the bolt.

As for the AT. I have thought long and hard about this one and could not come up with a way for it to work. If you where really good (Like Punisher or Doc Nickel good) you might be able to mill a whole new rail that integrated the pump arm into the sear.

[Jig]

hey
quick question here: what EXACTLY do i need for my regular classic mag to be turned into a beutiful, magestic pump marker?
i plan on putting a verticle 12 gram on her, along with a pvc stick feed on the body..im thinking about buying a highrise body?

thanks,
Jig

[devildog]

agd-officegal - i had already ordered my body before seeing this post, i just happened to see it browsing around the store and happened to see it and picked it up thinking it was rare, i already placed my order, does this mean im out 20 bucks or i have to wait a while until i get it?

[cledford]

Originally posted by devildog
agd-officegal - i had already ordered my body before seeing this post, i just happened to see it browsing around the store and happened to see it and picked it up thinking it was rare, i already placed my order, does this mean im out 20 bucks or i have to wait a while until i get it?

I think that they'll get them out within the 2-5 days specified at the store - they just aren't rushing them out the door today - Marcia will have to say for sure.

Anyhow, I doubt your out the cash - you just won't get it over night.

BTW, you know the *rails* were $20, not the bodies - right?

Bodies = $150

-Calvin

[RamboPreacher]

already had a couple kits laying about - ordered me the pump-rail, and while I was at it, thought I would get the minibody as well. can alwasy use another mag body. :)

[AGD-OfficeGal]

Nobody's out any money, we just have a delay in being able to fill the orders. We are shorthanded this week so the person who has to do all the coding to get this part into the computer system is pulling double duty.

Orders WILL be filled as soon as we are able.

Marcia

[Wc Keep]

how many total rails are there?

[AGD-OfficeGal]

LOL I won't know till they get put in the computer! :D

[Wc Keep]

ok...........you promise to save one for me?????:D ;)

[AGD-OfficeGal]

Okay - they are in the computer, all orders have been entered and allocated. We are still going to be shorthanded tomorrow so don't expect them all to ship right away.

There are about 65 left.

Marcia

[RamboPreacher]

Thanks for the update, Marcia!

[devildog]

ok cool, and yes i meant rail, happy i got one, now a question about the body, i want to get a no-rise body, can i just get the hole for the body drilled into it, and if i do, can i still use the body and the rail as a regular mag if i take the pump kit off? i know the hole can be drilled, but ive never dealt with a pump mag so i need to know about that.

[cledford]

Originally posted by devildog
ok cool, and yes i meant rail, happy i got one, now a question about the body, i want to get a no-rise body, can i just get the hole for the body drilled into it, and if i do, can i still use the body and the rail as a regular mag if i take the pump kit off? i know the hole can be drilled, but ive never dealt with a pump mag so i need to know about that.

The hole isn't a hole and can't be drilled - I'm sorry to say. First, the sear slot on a pump capable body is much wider. Second, there is no hole, but the is an area like a ramped slot leading into the mucho large sear area.

Do a search in the tech forum - there have been a couple of pics posted. Also try PMing Jason "Muzikman" - he had a sight up for a while with detailed pump pics and instructions. I tried going there recently and it was down - but I'm sure he would probably email you a pic or two.

In short, there is no way possible (within reason - a machinist could do it with a lot of work and it would still be MUCH easier to just buy a pump body) to convert a standard body to a pump.

The good news is that for a while AGD was putting the pump slot on all auto and mini-mag bodies. They are fairly easy to find. It was first the kit, then the rail that was tough to get. The rod is still a pain - but I've heard of people actually using coat-hanger wire for that.

Trust me - if you've got a kit and the rail you've got the hard part, but you will be buying a pump body.

-Calvin

[devildog]

ok cool, just thought a no-rise body would look really cool on a mag pump marker.

[Muzikman]

This is VERY out of date, and I never really did put up the explanation on how it works. Maybe I'll update it this weekend. But anyway, here is the link to my pumpmag all ripped apart.


http://pittsburgh-music.com/paintball/pumpmag/index.html

[BradAGD]

I can modify the old style body to a pump body if someone needs it done, and rails too.

Just FYI

[devildog]

how much brad?

[BradAGD]

To cut just the body is $25. Usually takes me a couple of days to get to it once I get it.

thanks

[HoppysMag]

Originally posted by BradAGD
To cut just the body is $25. Usually takes me a couple of days to get to it once I get it.

thanks

what about the rail?

and are you planing on making stock class bodys like on that mag u made.... like bolts onto the bodyrail, is offset on the gun to center it over the cut off feed?

[BradAGD]

Am I planning on making new bodies or sightrails? I sure would like to. I need to talk to Tom about making a run of stock feed mags with alittle help from him. Z-zero and I have been talking about a few features the gun should have and I'll report here when it goes through.

Yes I can do the rail too, $25 for it too.

While I'm here, what features would you like to have in a mag pump?

thanks

[Muzikman]

Brad, one that doesn't jam the bolt of go semi. I know this is asking alot, oh and an AT. ;)

These are the only three problems I have ever seen with the pumpmags. I personally never jammed the bolt with the pump rod, but Nerobro did at Skyball last year. Right now my problem is that I have to put a large back bumper in so that the main spring does not push so hard on the waffer spring that it ends up catching the sear and going semi auto. This ends up taking the increadbly light pump and making pretty hard. A lighter main sprint would solve this, but I have never tried any of the springs that came with the Lvl10, I might have to do that when I get home.

[BradAGD]

Using the level 10 bolt springs won't help, the lightest one is a stock mag spring. I think maybe a heavier wave spring will help. I'm trying to get some right now, I'll let you know if I can get them soon.

An autotrigger might be harder. My plan is to use another rod on the outside of the body and have something close to the sheridan version. That might work.

I'm off to plan the next version of the pump-mag and see what Tom says.

Wish me luck.

[hitech]

Originally posted by AGD
LOTS OF POLISHED PUMP RAILS!!

Can I use one of the pump rails as a regular rail on a classic 'mag? I'm just looking for a cheap rail.

[BradAGD]

Yeap, the pump rails will work on a normal mag. For awhile, all AGD made were pump rails.

Hope this helps.