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FalconGuy016
01-20-2003, 02:01 PM
Has anyone used a flatline cocker? I have never seen or heard one person who has
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spazzed
01-20-2003, 02:32 PM
2 things. You do realize how big of a POS the flatline barrel is, don't you?

Seond, that's about the ugliest thing I've ever seen :rolleyes:

Load SM5
01-20-2003, 02:33 PM
I saw one at an Atlanta scenario game. I think he's the only guy to ever buy one. I can't believe they're still being made.

Snewk
01-20-2003, 02:37 PM
Load you've almost gotten 4000 posts....




Flatline cockers....jeez. What a waste of a good vert cocker body, trigger frame and pneumatics.

FalconGuy016
01-20-2003, 02:39 PM
Yes I know, I never said I actually liked and or wanted one, I was just wondering if anyone had one

Evil Bob
01-20-2003, 03:08 PM
Obviously they are selling them or they wouldn't have marketed them for over two years now.

I have seen a few of them in tournies carried by back players (mostly at the AM level). Where I have seen them the most is in scenario and big games in a sniper roll. Nothing more annoying then someone pegging your position repeatedly from beyond your effective range. They do have their uses even if they are ugly looking.

-Evil Bob

lillfroboy
01-20-2003, 03:43 PM
i know a guy who has 1 he plays pball with my rother in atlanta, its his woods gun, it a nice gunn man o man ill tell u what u can hit peeps but they cant hit u, i have only played 1 game with it, it was pretty nice, but i wouldnt buy 1 because of the rumors about u cant remove he barrel

personman
01-20-2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Load SM5
I saw one at an Atlanta scenario game. I think he's the only guy to ever buy one. I can't believe they're still being made.
Was that at wildfire 24 hr scenario about a year ago? If so thats the guy who owns the pro shop that I'm buying my micro emag from.. he has a screwed up eye..

mr_cool2588
01-20-2003, 03:59 PM
I've never shot one but I have read several posts that say they break a lot of paint. I have also heard of people having to shoot from an awkward position, when they had to turn the gun sideways they ended up with sidespin:(

if you want backspin you could maybe try a galactic z-body on a mag, I am not sure how they work so I would do some research on them before you get it.

SpongeBobSquarePants
01-20-2003, 04:13 PM
well someone is buying these because the original model has been redesigned. I'm sure the die hard tippmann guys have these.

-=Squid=-
01-20-2003, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Evil Bob
Obviously they are selling them or they wouldn't have marketed them for over two years now.

I have seen a few of them in tournies carried by back players (mostly at the AM level). Where I have seen them the most is in scenario and big games in a sniper roll. Nothing more annoying then someone pegging your position repeatedly from beyond your effective range. They do have their uses even if they are ugly looking.

-Evil Bob

Dude, they dont give you more range.

Load SM5
01-20-2003, 04:40 PM
Yep, more like 2 years ago.


Originally posted by personman

Was that at wildfire 24 hr scenario about a year ago? If so thats the guy who owns the pro shop that I'm buying my micro emag from.. he has a screwed up eye..

pbguy87
01-20-2003, 04:45 PM
Yo, das ist kuhl

pbguy87
01-20-2003, 04:46 PM
I want to post this so I can put it in my signature, sorry, I love memorex

personman
01-20-2003, 04:50 PM
ok that was a random post.. but yea, memorex rules..

Load: are you sure it was 2 years ago? Maybe its something he did 2 years in a row, but I remember him saying he was gonna build a flatline cocker just for that game and then sell it.. and I havent known him for 2 years :p

booyah
01-20-2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by -=Squid=-


Dude, they dont give you more range.


Actually Dude, its one of the few things in paintball that will actually shoot farther and flatter at the same angle...

it gives you a longer effective range when you have any overhanging branches, or are unable to arc your shots. even then, it can be advantagous since the ball is spinning at such a rate that stopping the ball from spinning (long range hit not hard enough to break on its own) can often break the ball giving you a longer breaking range.


Flatlines are tons of fun in rec and big games, you suddenly get lots of respect with your "dumb old tippmann"

-Booyah

Josh2Xtremes
01-20-2003, 05:09 PM
Bud Orr himself used a Flatline EBLADE Autococker at the Worr Lords scenario game in Lake Elsinore, California a few weeks ago. Not only did it positively rip, it did so without breaking paint in my presence but it also shot extremely far...much farther than any gun of mine. Yes it's werid looking, yes it's awkward, but yes it works. Is it selling? Well, that's more a question for Ken Chamberlain or Sonny Lopez at WGP than for anyone around here. :D

_Spork_1
01-20-2003, 05:13 PM
thats a marketing tool

the eblade just came out and the flatline proboly wasnt selling well, so why not kill 2 birds with one stone?

and the eblade beingon it , takes away the thought that you can't shoot fast on flatliens

Evil Bob
01-20-2003, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by -=Squid=-


Dude, they dont give you more range.

Actually, yes they do, the paint carries much further on a nice flat tragectory.

I watched a guy in a ghillie suit with a flatline model 98 and a scope do some serious damage at range on an open field. No one could get close enough to even hit him, he was able to hit them with inpunity, it was great.

-Evil Bob

billmi
01-20-2003, 05:46 PM
I shot one at the 2000 Grand Finale scenario game in Ocala, FL, and was out with folks who were shooting them, as they were a new product from WGP then.

On the Wayne's World field, they ripped, especially shooting into building windows, and through buildings (in a window and out a door, or vise-versa on the "sinkertown" part of the field. Subjectively, it appeared to be quite a bit more accurate than the flatline M98 - I suspect this is due to less recoil and gun shake when shooting, and better shot to shot velocity consistency from the 'cocker's valving and double regulation.

Yes, you can make hook shots by tilting all the way sideways, but like learning to shoot tilted instead of off-hand with the Warp Feed, the gun is different and you need to learn how to shoot it differently. From my experiences shooing the 98 with Flatline barrel, I can say the claims that a small amount of tilt causes a hook shot are exagerated - I've never had a problem with unintended hook-shots.

Another misconception - - Flatline barrels aren't any harder to clean than normal barrels - a straight shot squeegie or pull through still does the job just fine.

Also a note, for the last year or so, the Flatline 'cockers have been built with an interchangeable breech, so you can swap it out and use a normal 'cocker barrel if you want.

See you on the field,
-Bill Mills

FalconGuy016
01-20-2003, 06:23 PM
Squid... have you ever heard or seen a flatline before?

billmi
01-20-2003, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by _Spork_1
thats a marketing tool

the eblade just came out and the flatline proboly wasnt selling well, so why not kill 2 birds with one stone?


You know you can just swap in the words X-Mag and Warp Feed, and your statement applies equally well to the picture.

See you on the field,
-Bill Mills

Sinnet
01-20-2003, 07:17 PM
spork has been
http://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=318304
by Bill Mills

Brak
01-20-2003, 07:38 PM
id buy one in a second you guys are loosers saying it doesnt look cool. its about how the gun shoots not how it looks

painball
01-20-2003, 08:18 PM
I'd buy one for woodsball or scenarios. But I only play speedball so one of those wouldn't appeal to me. I never liked the flatline idea before, but it looks nice on a cocker. Anyone know how much this costs? I'm guessin inb the $100 area.

billmi
01-20-2003, 08:29 PM
MSRP is $600. You can't just buy the barrel and slap it on a regular Autococker. The gun has a modular breech system.

See you on the field,
-Bill Mills

Trigger_Happy
01-20-2003, 09:06 PM
I've been nailed at well over 200 feet by a guy using a flatline tippy. Also, he was shooting up at me from the bottom of a hill! Let's see....200+ feet up a 45 degree angle hitting me....grrrrrrr. On the upside, they break 1 in 50 balls, so I have pletty of time to bunker those annoying flatliners ;)

madmatt151
01-20-2003, 10:39 PM
I played ni December at a ski trip and one of the other teachers came out on the field with his brand new 98 with the flatline. He still had price tags on the suit and the case he was carrying the gun in so I was giggling at him being and "old newbie". Then when we were playing he kept getting me out, and I never EVER saw him. Finally I played a game on his team and we ran together. He was hittign targets so far away that I almost cried! I don't care what they say or what they look like, this thing shoots FAR!