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Smitty2k1
01-30-2003, 06:51 PM
Alright, Im officially PISSED.

A few weeks ago I had around 400 some mp3's on winamp. Everytime I used the computer, I would listen to them in 'shuffle' mode. Eventully I realized, that I heard some songs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than others. This made me mad, because I went through my list and found about 20 songs Id never even listened to yet.

So to make things worse, I got the 'Sony Mini Hi-Fi' Stero for x-mas. For thoes that do not know, you can hold 60 cd's in this beast. Anyways, I just got around to actully putting in 60 cd's. (Im reeeeeeealy lazy) So I have all 60 slots full. I put it on suffle, and what do you think happens.

5 of the first 10 songs were from one of the two Black Sabbath cd's I own. I was pissed. I continue to listen, and find out, that I seem to only be hearing tracks from about half the cd's in there.

The 'shuffle' mode gods hate me.

(thought i'd vent)

Thordic
01-30-2003, 07:11 PM
In Winamp this seems to be a common problem if you keep the songs in alphabetically order.

Use the list randomizer, then just play them straight :)

Xerces
01-30-2003, 07:33 PM
computers are unable to generate random numbers. any sequence was programmed by a human.

Smitty2k1
01-30-2003, 07:41 PM
Yeah thats what I eventully found out for winamp :)

-Jôker-
01-30-2003, 07:51 PM
yea shuffle SUCKS! i just enqueue the 100 sounds i wanto litsen to lol:rolleyes: or make play lists

rdb123
01-30-2003, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Xerces
computers are unable to generate random numbers. any sequence was programmed by a human.

Actually, you could use a recursive function in C++, but then again, after the 1 millionth time, you MIGHT start being able to guess a certain pattern.

-Ron

Kevmaster
01-30-2003, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Xerces
computers are unable to generate random numbers. any sequence was programmed by a human.


Incorrect. The random integer function on the computer bases its nubmer off the internal clock's date. Seconds from 12:00AM Jan 1, 1900. That is what your rand # is based on

rdb123
01-30-2003, 08:28 PM
Kev, you talking RandInt() in C++?

If you looked in the header file, it's recursive.

-Ron

Smitty2k1
01-30-2003, 08:49 PM
Yup, its official, this thread is now 'over my head'

alkafluence
01-30-2003, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Kevmaster



Incorrect. The random integer function on the computer bases its nubmer off the internal clock's date. Seconds from 12:00AM Jan 1, 1900. That is what your rand # is based on

Unless you use Java (for example)

rdb123
01-30-2003, 09:57 PM
Java.... Ewwwww....... Would rather use C# instead of anything by Sun Microsystems. Too clunky and what gives with EasyReader and EasyWriter for it???

-Ron

Sparq
01-31-2003, 04:20 PM
Ahhh, Pascal and C are all coming back to me now. The crummy Macs I learned on had a set "Random Seed" for each computer. It would generate the exact same number every time you referenced it. We ended up having to set the random number generators to use the random seed and the clock time...

Anyway, yeah - Winamp has a seriously lacking shuffle mode.

gimp
01-31-2003, 05:37 PM
Computers can generate pseudorandom numbers. True randomness is virtually impossible to do on a computer, since these numbers will depend on the algorithm, and so they can't possible be random. Baseing the the seed on the clock of the computer won't help much either. It won't work because the time between calls to the generator would be essentially identical on every program invocation. Here at RPI they taught us about the linear congruntial generator. And as far as I know, it's the best way to get a 'random' number. It uses prime numbers and such, really really big ones.

Automaggin2
01-31-2003, 06:07 PM
rando.h class, but i dont think its a true randomize

FreshmanBob
01-31-2003, 07:19 PM
people are starving in africa, mexican natives are oppressed, Bush is ruining the economy and making us look worse and your angry because your shuffle mode isn't playing 20 songs out of 400...

woooow. I feel sorry for ya man :(

Smitty2k1
02-01-2003, 12:54 AM
I'm a teen, what more you expect of me?
:)

Thordic
02-01-2003, 03:19 PM
Good answer :)

BobTheCow
02-01-2003, 03:24 PM
FreshmanBob, your title is offensive to me!! :eek:
lol jp...i think...

Smitty2k1
02-02-2003, 12:47 AM
Hah my mom told me thoes very same words (good awnser) when I feigned ingorance about underage drinking at my house when they were out of town :)