New Slug body designs from Deadlywind

[nicad]

An associate of mine and I have been putting together some body designs for the slug. He and I are doing all the designing and I will be doing the machining (CNC 4axis). Here is a shot of one of the concepts.

We plan on making limited runs of each type, so they will be unique and retain their value. We will also be working up designs for the newer style Slugs once thay are available.

comments/feedback is welcome.

[nicad]

another view-

[shade23]

That looks frickin awesome!!!!!! whats the estimated price on one of those? and will you make any old school RT compatible ones?

[darklord]

Looks pretty good, I would like to see an actual body first... a lot of designs have been popping up lately!

[nicad]

I should be having some pics of a run on a 1.5" round bar stock aluminum soon. (dont have enough Slug bodys to do test runs on).

price: nothing set yet.. but expecting it to be in the $200 neighborhood for raw, slightly more for single color.

[Smitty2k1]

For the $200 they will be coming with a feed tube and detent? :)

Im guessing its angel feed tubes and cocker detents?

[Cryer]

sweet design, one thing though. Have the front tapered more.
Attatched is a pic showing what I mean.


(i dont have Photoshop)

[nicad]

not sure yet on what all will be included. most likely will leave that up to the buyer..
they will be threaded for cocker barrels, angel feed necks, and most likely angel ball detents.

[mag-hatter]

is there a way to mill the sluggo a certain way so it would fit a classic?

very nice design! i really like what you came up with!

[athomas]

Originally posted by mag-hatter
is there a way to mill the sluggo a certain way so it would fit a classic?

very nice design! i really like what you came up with!

It does fit a classic.

[Kevmaster]

yep...all sluggos fit classics

[FooTemps]

That's a really nice design. The drop off right after the feed should be a bit rouder. (actually, I'm not sure about that, it looks like a sharp angle but it might not be)

[Creative Mayhem]

I like it...:D

BUT, are you sure you have enough "meat" at the valve end? IMO, it looks to be a little thin in your picture.


C Mayhem

[pito189]

I agree with Cryer, taper the front some more if you can.

[nicad]

ok well the 1.5"aluminum for test runs is on backorder. :-/
soo Iv been cooking up a few new designs in the mean time..

[nicad]

..and as suggested, more removed off the front! :)
my personal favorite so far..

[_Spork_1]

a ripper mag ooo:eek:

when are you going to make some with the new style slugs?

ill be a deffinate buyer if you get it over the valve and cool looking

[MicroB]

Will want the first ripper body that covers the valve.

All the designs are outstanding keep'em com'in

[beefstew]

nice nice want to see some real pics just like everyone else.

[PzYcO]

Hey...when you make these can you make them like in different feeds? like possibly a left warped? ^_^

[nicad]

sorry cant make any structural changes to the slug body.. so whatever is offered in the slug, thats what will be available.

Im doing a rough milling of that last "ripper" design right now in a block of wood (see above post- the aluminum stock will be on its way). if all goes well and nothing crashes :) ill have some pics of it up.

word is that the new slugs (valve covering) will be out in a matter of weeks. as soon as i get my hands on the datasheet for it, ill start working up some designs for those. I personally prefer the valve cover look myself. :)

out!

[Cryer]

Do a "ripper"!
I've always heard (there were like 3 different threads) that people want to see a mag in the style of a ripper Intimidator...

[mag-hatter]

hmmm i would absoultely buy a sluggo if it had a job like this!

http://members.aol.com/hostgstdllama/Ripperpictures/chromeripperrailweb.jpg

im not saying exactly like that, but you get the point...

[mag-hatter]

here, like this i guess.

[nicad]

man wood is nasty.. but is sure is fast and cheap! :)
the surface does not show off verywell in these, but you can get an idea.

[nicad]

another-

[nicad]

one more for now-

[Kevmag]

Both the last CGI you posted and the wood sample look great. I can't wait until these get out.

Do you guys do this for a living? Have you milled other markers?

[BTAutoMag]

thats nice. the ULE's should come like that.

[Blennidae]

Nicad: Very nice work.

I personally didn't care for the style in the 1st pic, but the style you did in the wood sample is very nice.

I think we all appreciate seeing it as a real object (even if only in wood) as opposed to only the digital design.

I am also one of the "cover the valve" fans, so I'm interested in what you come up with when that type sluggo is available.

[JAM]

yeah, that looks sweet.

And it is really nice to see some physical models rather than just CAD.


-J

[JT2002]

nicad how much for the wood bodies?:D

[nicad]

wood bodies! $5 get em while they are hot*! hehe

been a while since iv updated.. sorry. spent most of the day tuneing the mill and making some changes to it to hopefully allow for faster mill times.

im getting back on the software tomorrow and try to pump out a another design. so far the last design posted is the most popular.. ill see if I can come up with some variations of it or maybe a new spin on it.

Also I plan on having an aluminum sample done tomorrow (not a Slug, just a bar of aluminum).. but cant promise anything on that time.

to answer some questions, the $200-something range is planned to be raw bodies only, ready to be annodized. they WILL be threaded for a ball detent. I like the angel ball detent, since you can twist it from the back with an allen wrench, so that is prolly what they will be tapped for. any suggestions on this part?







*wood bodies exclude any interal anything. body sold is externally milled chunk of wood. :-D

[FooTemps]

How about a non ripper style body?

[Little Matt]

I think it looks awsome. About how long before the go into production?

Later,

[MicroB]

I would like to have a detent on both sides(just for looks I like things to be uniform). I would also agree on the angel detent they look the best. I was also wondering if you could extend the milling onto the/a body rail to make it look that much better.

Thx, B

[nicad]

production time.. good question. Iv been dedicating almost everyday to make these things a reality (from the designing, tweaking, toolpath output, to machine setup and roughing/finishing passes).. things are getting closser everyday. :)

integrated body rail milling.. good idea. however, the reason for the slug was to be compatible with (all?) mags.. if theres different rails, then thatll introduce many variables in setup. :-/
ill still look into it later tho..

[poolman450]

nicad, since i have already purchased a slug, would it be possible to send it to you to have it run through your milling process.....and if by chance you will.....what will you charge.............thanks

[joeyjoe367]

Not a fan of "ripper" milling, but looks like you're doing some great work.

[nicad]

ok im running a test aluminum bar right now.. it might be a while.. :)

sure youcan send in your existing slug body.. whatever the price is set at, I guess just subtract $100 from it.

[mistwolf]

I wish I could afford one of these, they look sweet. :( But it's not gonna happen any time this decade. :(

Jamie

[FooTemps]

You should do the complete anti-thesis of ripper... lol. Cover both extremes of the spectrum. I think that'd be cool for you guys to do that.

[Aliens-8-MyDad]

OMG THIS IS NICE!!!!!! hey ever thoguht about contiuing the wave things all the way to the front of the body?

[JT2002]

Originally posted by Aliens-8-MyDad
OMG THIS IS NICE!!!!!! hey ever thoguht about contiuing the wave things all the way to the front of the body?

that is decently nice but by doing that it looks kinda like some sort of adult toy:D :rolleyes: . keeping it straight and smooth in the front no ridges is a good idea.;)

[mistwolf]

What's wrong with adult toys? Imagine the looks you'd get with this and a carefully milled barrel...

Jamie

[JT2002]

the looks like what? the looks of the people who want to punch you in the face or the looks of the women who want to "temporarily" borrow your sluggo?:D

[nicad]

allright.. back on topic yall..

running a finishing pass right now..
heres a pic of it in progress

[Little Matt]

That looks awsome and its not even finished yet. I'm deffinatly getting one.

later,

[nicad]

latest update-
freshly cut. just needs some polishing.. oh wait.. and an awful lot of work done on the inside! :)

im heading out of town for the weekend.. ill pick it all back up when i get back.. njoy!

[JAM]

wait, so it's solid?... I thought you were gonna make them out of AGD slugs, that would be much easier/quicker wouldn't it?

-j

[JT2002]

Originally posted by JAM
wait, so it's solid?... I thought you were gonna make them out of AGD slugs, that would be much easier/quicker wouldn't it?

-j


LOL!:D dude, look up a couple of posts

[arowmic]

That cut is just a test run still.
The final product will use slug bodies.

[FutureMagOwner]

i got a slug you can test the final product on :)

[smilestyler]

Nicad, How about an update on your progress?

[Kevmag]

I can just imagine the tech support calls...

"Tech Support, how can I help you?"

"Um, I can't fit my valve in my body..."

:)


BTW - the body looks good!

[RetroEclipseMan]

Wow that looks real nice. That's probably one of the nicest designs I've seen so far.

[strongboy2005]

that's awesome. if these hit it big i might buy another cheap mag off ebay and slap an x valve, intelliframe, and one of your bodies on it. great work!

[Little Matt]

strongboy, wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy a body and a rail and then build it from there. Becuase your just gonna replace everything on that cheap mag you get off ebay anyway. So in the long run your speding 150-300 dollars that you shouldn't have spent in the first place.

just a thought.

later,

[ChucktheMAGician]

Great looking design! Will you be able to continue the waves over the valve if the next set of sluggo's have the extra aluminum?

[cledford]

I agree with Rob_AGD (he didn't post this in the thread - but we had a conversation about it last week at the shop) Go with cocker dentents. The Angels look good - but they are crap. If you use cocker threads you can then install the rebuildable dentents - which also allow you to "custom tweak" the spring tension on the ball bearing.

The Angels (using Angel detents) are WAY KNOWN for chopping when using a HALO-B due to the weak dentents. Don't sacrifice on function for looks.

Otherwise, great work - I'm looking forward to the bodies.

-Calvin

[madmatt151]

Will you be taking pre-orders? if so put me down for a RED one! Thanks!

[mistwolf]

Hey, on that subject, should someone wish to buy one, would you be willing to powdercoat the body, and maybe other marker bits as well, so it all looks nice together? :)

Jamie

[nicad]

hey yall.. yep been a while.. sorry!

thanks for the support and comments.
iv been working on many little things every day making these a reality.
to touch on some questions- yes i do plan utilizing the "tail" section of the newer slugs once/if they come out.
Ill consider the cocker detents.. or possibly make it an option.
im not quiet ready to take pre-orders. im focusing right now perfecting some of the process.. ill most definatly let yall know when im ready to start doing some slug runs.

later for now-
colin

[madmatt151]

To quote Homer, "Ohhhh but I want it NOOOOW!"

Thanks, I hope everything goes well with the process. I will be anxiously awaiting the day we can order! Remember, make them in RED! :)

[JT2002]

anybody get that on tape? will it be showing at another time? i was so busy wiht a movie i forgot to watch it :( :mad:

[FutureMagOwner]

any update on this?

[ChucktheMAGician]

Originally posted by nicad
im focusing right now perfecting some of the process.. ill most definatly let yall know when im ready to start doing some slug runs.

later for now-
colin

Like that?;) :D

[FutureMagOwner]

yeah like that ;)

[FutureMagOwner]

up im still wondering about this

[FutureMagOwner]

hello? still interested :)

[cockermatt]

WOW! That body is just sick. Makes me wanna get a mag. :)

[nicad]

be looking for a major update tomorrow or the next day guys..

[FutureMagOwner]

ill be holding you to it!

[nicad]

well heres an update.. not the one i was looking to give, but yeah.
parts of good ol TX decided to ice over where im at and im kinda stuck right now.. cant get to my shop.

was thinking bout going swimming just two days ago.. now its 28*F. :)

ill update again when i can get somewhere..
later-
colin

[LaW]

Originally posted by nicad
well heres an update.. not the one i was looking to give, but yeah.
parts of good ol TX decided to ice over where im at and im kinda stuck right now.. cant get to my shop.

was thinking bout going swimming just two days ago.. now its 28*F. :)

ill update again when i can get somewhere..
later-
colin

that sucks :)

[JEDI]

Originally posted by cledford
I agree with Rob_AGD (he didn't post this in the thread - but we had a conversation about it last week at the shop) Go with cocker dentents. The Angels look good - but they are crap. If you use cocker threads you can then install the rebuildable dentents - which also allow you to "custom tweak" the spring tension on the ball bearing.

The Angels (using Angel detents) are WAY KNOWN for chopping when using a HALO-B due to the weak dentents. Don't sacrifice on function for looks.

Otherwise, great work - I'm looking forward to the bodies.

-Calvin
Couldn't agree more. Cocker detents!

[magzown3]

I cannot wait for those bodies to come out, they are by far the best looking ones so far. Except, if you sell them raw for $200, i have no more money to get it polished or annoed :(

[nicad]

ahh yes. update time. actually all i can say right now is look for pics of the first milled sluggo tomorrow.. probably in a new thread.
its late.. the mill and i are tired.. :)

out!

[mistwolf]

Put them here, too! i don't want to miss them, and have this thread subscribed... ;)

Jamie

[nicad]

updates in new thread located at:
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70320

head on over!