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EZ-MAG
04-06-2003, 11:02 PM
I think my original thoughts about this project came from looking at autocockers. I just decided that it would be really cool to have an air ram actuated electrically controlled mag. I used a Z-grip because it gave me the most room in the back to work with. All the componentsI used, I got from work. I started with a bafricated banner photoeye that looks for a bolt that I added to the back of the trigger. It opens an electric solenoid Mac valve which in turn sends low pressure air from a seperate reg. to the air ram. I needed at least 22-30volts DC to operate the electrics. I thought about a seperate battery pack, but couldn't find a good location. So I added a battery in series to the hopper. Giving me 27volts from the hopper but still allowing it to work normally.

thecavemankevin
04-06-2003, 11:16 PM
sounds nice....when can we see it?

EZ-MAG
04-06-2003, 11:18 PM
I'll have some pics soon, but there are a couple in the Ultimate Madness thread.
I also just installed a lvl 10 and a warp feed(thanks Tom)

IcantBelieveit
04-06-2003, 11:25 PM
im confused...whats the point?

Load SM5
04-06-2003, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by IcantBelieveit
im confused...whats the point?

It's different and interesting, not to mention an electronic Z-grip.

Mossman
04-07-2003, 12:02 AM
For the lazy folks, here's a link (http://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=730470)

Nice work, very intruiging dude (however you spell that :))

Definately get some high quality pics of what's going on with that ram and your electronics, That thing is a bit too much for me to wrap my mind around this late ;)

Punisher
04-07-2003, 02:19 AM
Like this?
http://airsoldier.com/~punisher/wanda1.JPG
http://airsoldier.com/~punisher/wanda2.JPG
http://airsoldier.com/~punisher/wanda3.JPG
http://airsoldier.com/~punisher/wanda4.JPG
http://airsoldier.com/~punisher/wanda5.JPG

She's been updated since with a nicer LPR, a chrome taso barrel and chrome body. The black stull is all getting anodized blue/silver acid wash.

basically a teeny tiny ram I built toggles the sear. It's controlled by a small timer curcuit, a Humphrey's 301 valve and a 9volt.

warpfeedmod
04-07-2003, 07:09 AM
holy cow! Look at all the wires/tubes down there. I'd be afraid of yanking one of them off.


http://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=730470

Is there any way you can tuck some of that away in a box or something?

ChucktheMAGician
04-07-2003, 07:32 AM
Interesting gun Tom, off topic, but do you play locally?

ShooterJM
04-07-2003, 09:00 AM
Punisher - For some reason I thought your design was run off of a mechanical cocker x-way? That's cool.


EZ-MAG - I'm guessing I'm using the same type of Mac valve you are. Unfortunately I'm trying to cram it into a stock frame. Having some issues getting the cylinder to fit correctly. I need to find a slightly lower profile microline fitting

thecavemankevin
04-07-2003, 12:21 PM
looks like it has been assymilated by the Borg from Star Trek.

BTAutoMag
04-07-2003, 02:15 PM
HOLY MOLEY!
dude that is awsome

Mag Master 04
04-07-2003, 05:02 PM
all im sayin is WOW i looked at that rubbed my eyes pinched myself rubbed my eyes again and said wow 1 more time...im very confused w that z grip maxy electro thingy set up

RRfireblade
04-07-2003, 06:09 PM
Punisher,
I don't like your as much.It needs a little more Frankenstien at my Mag.:D

Jay.

Fatjon
04-07-2003, 06:11 PM
I seen this in the other thread the other day before it was explained and was like What the *ell is that. But i guess that explains it now.

EZ-MAG
04-08-2003, 09:21 PM
here are some more pics

EZ-MAG
04-08-2003, 09:22 PM
more

EZ-MAG
04-08-2003, 09:28 PM
more

EZ-MAG
04-08-2003, 09:43 PM
more

EZ-MAG
04-08-2003, 09:48 PM
more

EZ-MAG
04-08-2003, 10:01 PM
more

EZ-MAG
04-08-2003, 10:08 PM
more

Fred
04-08-2003, 10:11 PM
ok...

now you wanna explain this monstrosity??? :confused:

I kinda see what you did... but its such a jumble I'm not getting it...

---Fred

darklord
04-08-2003, 10:12 PM
Man, that is a sick idea, I'd love to have an e-zgrip, but wow! Look at all those hoses! :eek:

EZ-MAG
04-08-2003, 10:23 PM
Here is a little more detail on the workings of the EZ-MAG
I started with a Banner fiber optic sensor (SM312F) with a bafricated fiber cable, meaning it starts as 2 fibers and combines into 1 and reflects off whatever you are trying to sense. The output from that sensor, triggered by a bolt attached to the back of the trigger itself, turns on a Mac valve, model 35A-AAA=DFBJ-1KD 24 VDC. The air coming out of this valve goes directly to an air cylinder, which I don't have a number for but its about 3.5 inches long and about 5/8 inch in diameter, a shorter stroke cylinder would be fine. The supply air for the whole thing comes from a "T" off the line from the tank that is regulated by an SMC reg, part number NAR2000-NO2. I drilled a hole in the back of the Z-grip for an M-6 bolt to slide through. It is connected to the sear by an oval shaped washer sliped over the bottom of the sear and welded to the bolt. The bolt comes out the back of the frame a little over an inch and is attached to the air cylinder with cross link made from thin aluminum bar. The power comes from the hopper that I added a third 9Volt battery to, to get enough voltage, 27volts. I just tied a small headphone style plug into one side of the 2 existing batts and came off the other side and connected the third in series and back to the plug. I also ended up putting a proximity switch on the safety, because I found that if the electrics were left on when the safety was off for mechanical mode it would fire once by the sensor and once mechanically. The resulting kickback of the sear would push the bolt back across the sensor and if I kept a little pressure on the trigger it would just cycle back and forth making it full auto.

ShooterJM
04-09-2003, 08:06 AM
Cool! Yeah I have the same MAC valve. I don't mines as complicated just because I'm not even trying for the mechanical or electric option. I'm going with electric only.

I have my tank running into a double tapped ASA. One air outlet runs the mag as normal. The other goes to a palmer stabalized that holds it to much lower pressure. Palmer ouput runs to the mac, mac output runs to a cylinder. The whole thing will be run off a basic stamp. Think I've just about finished with the programming, just need to figure out if I can cram the cylinder into the grip.

WARPED1
04-09-2003, 08:21 AM
Great idea, but its ugly as sin! Wait, that's what you were going for:D ! Is it heavy?

BTAutoMag
04-09-2003, 11:42 AM
i like it

as soon as i get some time and some spare parts i'll borgify my beast:D

then it will surely earn its name

Investorguy
01-26-2004, 04:51 AM
WOW... so cool it deserves to be resurected.

Chojin Man
01-26-2004, 05:00 AM
Wow that is one ugly mag.

the_next_guy_
01-28-2004, 11:30 PM
Nice! I commend you on an awesome mag. How much does something like that cost?

chizle97
01-29-2004, 12:19 AM
Dont even try to tell me there are no magic elves in there, there are so many more little hiding places in there. :D

ben-afficial
03-08-2005, 12:02 PM
your gun looks crazy cool....but i just cant handle the z grip..i played with one a few times and near broke my w :dance: rist

Chronobreak
03-08-2005, 12:06 PM
woah thread resurection.. :spit_take

Target Practice
03-08-2005, 03:50 PM
Whee!

VFX_Fenix
03-08-2005, 06:14 PM
its like an anual thing, it'll sink into obscurity and once again in 12 months or so it'll pop back up. :ninja:

BTAutoMag
03-08-2005, 06:47 PM
holy post resurection batman

Mr. Mouse
03-08-2005, 11:00 PM
your crazy man, i can see you mowin some people down with that beast :shooting: :cry: :cry: :cry:

goat
04-03-2005, 04:59 PM
That Gun Ripps!!...shoots ropes and now that the LVL 10 is in it and it is running on a warp you should see the looks he gets when it comes out of his gear bag :wow:

you should see his Cocker that he MADE his own pump kit for and turned it into a 10 round sniper....very slick.

Goat

kurama
04-03-2005, 10:53 PM
All the pics on AO are messed up. Anyone have pics of this, I want to see it again =P

Adrenaline_Junkie
04-04-2005, 07:15 PM
Not all the pics are messed up. Im guessin the ones in this thread dont work because this thread is like 2 YEARS OLD!

BTAutoMag
04-05-2005, 07:12 PM
i have all the pictures saved on my computer somewhere ~rolls eyes~ i think theyre on a disk but for some reason my floppy drive aint workin...


bummer huh

dj89
04-05-2005, 09:03 PM
http://img221.exs.cx/img221/1368/frankenmag14km.jpg
http://img221.exs.cx/img221/5290/frankenmag21xk.jpg
http://img221.exs.cx/img221/9930/frankenmag33xp.jpg
http://img221.exs.cx/img221/1703/frankenmag47ab.jpg
http://img221.exs.cx/img221/3039/frankenmag53ih.jpg
http://img221.exs.cx/img221/7163/frankenmag60fo.jpg

;)

paintballfreak90
04-05-2005, 09:07 PM
that is just one huge mess, but it looks pretty cool and comfy.

ben-afficial
04-06-2005, 10:53 AM
cool...kinda.....comfy, no :dance:

teufelhunden
04-06-2005, 10:55 AM
If I was that gun, I'd kill myself.

Codekevin0403
04-06-2005, 02:44 PM
wow if i saw someone walking to the field with that, i'd be pretty intimidated...


either that or i'd shoot him cuz that thing looks crazy

Chronobreak
04-06-2005, 02:52 PM
do all those hoses and stuff actualy do something?

looks like alot of unnecesary stuff... :confused:

goat
04-07-2005, 03:42 PM
It all has a function, I'm actually on the phone with him as I type this ....he wasnt aware the thread had popped back up.
He said he'll post something soon....Glad someone found the pictures, pretty amazing isnt it.
Goat

zazzoo
04-07-2005, 03:50 PM
lol how much does that weigh

Chronobreak
04-07-2005, 03:52 PM
i cant see the pics how do i see them>?
http://www.automags.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1856691&postcount=43

scroll up

if the pics dont work there then its a problem with your comp/browser

EZ-MAG
04-07-2005, 05:39 PM
I'm glad to see my thread reappear. The Frankenmag is alive and well. I've updated it with a level 10 bolt, and a smaller regulator. It now weighs exactly 10 pounds. A little heavy, but actually very manueverable. When I put it in the reactive mode, it shots about 12 to 14 per second. If anyone is interested, I'll post some pics of my custom outer limits pump autococker.

pump
04-08-2005, 05:56 AM
pump autococker???
yes show me

EZ-MAG
04-09-2005, 11:55 AM
This is my pump autococker I created. I used a 99 STO and replaced all the parts up front and the cocking rod with parts that I made. I also made the feed tube on top.

goat
04-13-2005, 08:14 PM
Yipee AO is back up and running, That Cocker is cool as hell. :headbang: