Comments regardomg the 2k1 Timmy

[Strider]

Hi all, just a few basic questions regarding the 2k1 Classic Timmy. I'm looking for some quick answers, don't have time to research it myself right now...

What are the differences between it and the 2k2 or Dragon models?

Where do they sit in comparison to the 2k1+ LCD Angels?

About what is the going used rate for one these days?

I just need a general feeler, please no marker wars. :)

(Disclaimer - No I'm not hanging up my Emag. :D)

[paintball8869]

what 2k1 timmy are you talkin about? there is no 2k1 timmy. The models are as follows:

classic
ripper
2k1 GZ
2k2 GZ
2k2 timmy
Dragon
Ironmen
Storm
Lasoya
Bone


Once you decide which one you're talking about, we can tell you the differences, etc.

[Mossman]

Can anyone tell me the difference of a 2k1 and 2k2 GZ? I've got a 2k1 with a fried board on its way to me :D, it was cheap so I don't care what the difference is.

[SlipknotX556]

I think ethier there is some slight difference in the milling, the boards. But other than that, nothing is really different between the 2k1 and the 2k2 GZ.

[paintball8869]

2k1 gz has plastic eye covers, a regular feedneck, a classic trigger and a regular 45 frame

the 2k2 gz has metal eye covers (some do, some don't, dunno why)......clamping feedneck, dragon trigger, and clamshell 45 frame (clamshell meaning it comes apart in 2 halves, unlike the standard 45 which comes apart only on 1 side panel).

[-=Squid=-]

I assume he is talking about the classic. The classics go for about 450-550 (I sold mine for 470 stock) Some differences: Classics have a different trigger frame, taking weird grips, and have a large curve at the bottom. The trigger is also more external, and not as neat. There are also 2 front regs rather than one. They are not quite as fast. The eyes dont work quite as good. Really, I Think thats about it...other than GZ's etc are twice as much ;)

[paintball8869]

the eyes are the same on the classic and all other intimidators. They work fine. You won't notice a difference between the eyes on a classic or a dragon for example.

The board that comes stock with a classic is the select fire board. It is limited to 14 bps. Slow becuase it only checks for a trigger pull every 1/14 of a second, which makes it really slow. So if you pull twice in that 1/14th of a second, it'll only shoot once.

Get a SOB (semi only) board if you can, or even a WAS board. SOB is fast, very fast. The WAS is even faster, despite all the hype around it.

[Strider]

Ah sorry, classic. :)

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by paintball8869
the eyes are the same on the classic and all other intimidators. They work fine. You won't notice a difference between the eyes on a classic or a dragon for example.

The board that comes stock with a classic is the select fire board. It is limited to 14 bps. Slow becuase it only checks for a trigger pull every 1/14 of a second, which makes it really slow. So if you pull twice in that 1/14th of a second, it'll only shoot once.

Get a SOB (semi only) board if you can, or even a WAS board. SOB is fast, very fast. The WAS is even faster, despite all the hype around it.

Sorry about that, for some reason I thought they had different eyes.

[Mossman]

Wish I had known all those down sides of the 2k1 before I bought it, especially the frame difference, but it's all good. When everything's said and done I'll have a 2k1 GZ with WAS board, WAS eyes, PBK hard detents, and metal eye covers for around...550 bucks :D

[Strider]

Ok new question.

Lets say I have a pre-set HPA. Can I screw and play? What do I need to do or have before I can do such?

Of course, with my Flatline, I could hook up and drop my pressure down... Whats the ideal setting for a standard setup?

[wyn1370]

if you dont' have the low pressure mod, you want to run 500 into the marker. Anything over that will risk blowing the noid. I can't get my flatline to run that low, supposedly you need a different reg spring to get it that low.

[paintball8869]

You CAN run a preset into your gun. As long as you have both a HP and LP regulator. Set your LPR at 80 psi and your HPR at 250 PSI. Then have fun.

[wyn1370]

Every place I've ever read says a classic needs to have less than 500 going into it. That's why you set your inline to 500 when running a preset.

[paintball8869]

From someone that has run numerous classics, worked on them, etc. You can put 800-850 psi (whatever your tank is preset to), right into the HP regulator. The hp regulator will knock it down to 200-300 psi (whatever you've got it set for) and the lpr will work fine. Doesn't matter what you read, the gun was designed NOT to need an adjustable tank or 3rd regulator. It's got a built in HPR (hence the top regulator) and it works just great. It's the same thing as the Torpedo regulator that Bob puts on his newer guns and you can use a preset tank on that cant ya?