paintballs at war in KUWAITI DESERT

[Shawn at suny oswego]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/17/btsc.savidge.gut.check/index.html

I think this is a great idea, But I also think a team from AO could do alot better.

(you have to read the whole thing)

[FalconGuy016]

The army's been doing it for years and years :)
I wonder what guns they are using and what paintballs (who is the lucky company)
Those are some pretty shocking causualties though :eek:

[cris8762]

i'm betting it was procarbines and i have no idea on paint (most likely whitebox stuff)

[FreshmanBob]

It might be the little bullet thingys they can use in fake m-16s that are filled with paint and have air behind it. I've never bled profusely from a paintball to the noggin, so thats my guess.

[Shawn at suny oswego]

it could have been at point blank, and im gessing they aren't using cronos

Tom had this to say at the end of tech tip 3

-AGD-

"....When the military came to us and wanted a more accurate non lethal system we made a bullet shaped, spin stabilized paintball that far outperformed any equal weight round projectile. Accuracy by volume has been, and will remain, the best way to score eliminations."


more wight at the same speed will hurt more.

[Doug_7]

They were probably using specialy designed paint bulets like the kind used in Model 85's. They discribe them on this page. http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/loge/4039/guns.html
look down the page. It says it fires at about 400 FPS. That could easly break the skin from close range.

[G-Rock]

From seeing the urban trainng here at Fort Campbell, I know the 101st uses what is called a sim round. It is usually a 9mm or a 5.56mm (M-16/M4/m-249 SAW) round with a paintball at the end instead of a bullet.

So take a paintball the size of the bullet with the force of a bullet behind it.

They use these with their own weapons for more realistic training.

Now dont get me wrong, I have also seent hem use regualt paintball markers also.

chris geiger

[pballck]

http://www.f4og.com/militarypaintball.html

You got it G-Rock..it's called simunitions. This site describes it pretty well. My office is in charge of it on Fort Campbell. It's a great idea!

[Shawn at suny oswego]

Cool stuff!

[Jack & Coke]

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/WORLD/meast/03/17/btsc.savidge.gut.check/story.savidge.mask.jpg

[Temo Vryce]

It's easy to say that a paintball team coudl do better in that situation but I highly doubt they could. As for the casualty rate, the first man around a corner, threw a door, over a wall, etc... is expected to take the first hit. This allows the rest of the team to pin point and eliminate the target.

[devildog]

Originally posted by G-Rock
or a 5,56mm (M-16/M4/m-249 SAW) chris geiger

thats 5.56 caliber, which is about the same as 22 mm

[mag-hatter]

lol paintballing army excersises! i want to go there with a warped xmag and act as a german cliff machine gun nest and the army storming the beach like in ww2! THAT'D BE A TIGHT SCENARIO!!!!!!

[Mr.Emag]

dudes i live in monticello, mn and that is where they build the mock paintball guns for the military, they are almost exactly like the real thing(a m-16 that is) and they use a clip, our school took a tour of the machine shop, and i was telling them about actual paintball and there were all amazed, they showed us a video and its pitch balck then you hear a gun fire and you see this guys shoulder get light up like 25 times! CRAZY

[G-Rock]

Originally posted by devildog


thats 5.56 caliber, which is about the same as 22 mm

Thanks dude, My brain was fried when I typed it.

Oh and it is the same thing as a .223 in the civilian world.

chris geiger

[logamus]

ok, 5.56 calibre would not be fired from a rifle. 5.56mm is a common round size and more similar to the .223. i have no idea what these "simunitions" are but i feel reasonably certain they are not 5.56 claibre.

just so you know, calibre for small arms is the size of the round in hundreths of inches. so a 5.56 calibre would be a tad over 5 and a half inches around, about half of a fist.