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maximum
05-06-2003, 04:19 PM
Anyone had it done?
What did they do about the Steel washer?

Thanks for any responses



- Maximum

Smokee_2_7
05-06-2003, 07:44 PM
we are in the process of doing one right now. It may or may not work out right- - our thread in the dealer's forum has the whole deal on the micromag drama, and will be the first place that I post up wether or not it's do-able without having to get a new body. http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81020

Carl

maximum
05-06-2003, 07:47 PM
Yep its your thread that scared me. I have this ugly green E Micro and i just thought i could buy it and get it re-annoed.Then i read your post =).. Now i have to know, because if i cant get it ano'd im just going to sell it.


Thanks

- Maximum

Smokee_2_7
05-06-2003, 11:48 PM
If I were you, i would try to wait at most a week longer- - - we will know the fate of chuck's micromag body this week. However, I would suggest waiting a little longer that that before you buy the 'ugly' gun. Main reason: IF we can get the ring out and every thing seems to be fine, we still won't know for sure until chuck gets the gun back and attempts to shoot it. That will be the final word, in my opinion.


Carl

askman
05-06-2003, 11:51 PM
and there is always the powder coating option. at least on the external surfaces...

dcmander
05-07-2003, 12:06 AM
What about annodizing it with the steel ring in there? I believe Proteam said it would work, but they won't be liable.

Would it really get hot enough to melt?

NJsyndicate
05-07-2003, 12:39 AM
Ok, call me the dummy here but what exactly happens to the SS ring in an anno. bath? From what I understand the chemicals in the anno. bath attack the SS and begin to dissolve it. If this is true isn't there a way to cover it (or plug that portion on the body) so that the chemicals don't react with the ring. Sure that portion of the inside won't be annoed but its on the inside so no one will see it and it'll save a ton of trouble. I ask this b/c I'm in the same boat, I don't wanna damage my micro body (its the older /// milling not the nre sss type) b/c ptp doesn't make it any more.

maximum
05-07-2003, 08:39 AM
I already bought this Ugly Green E Micro =). I thought i could just get it Re-Ano'd. Hopefully there is something you can fill the inside of the body with so the chemicals dont ano the Inside or at least the part where the Ring is.

- Maximum

datapimp69
05-07-2003, 09:13 AM
I am working on this problem RIGHT now. i am runnign a second test tonight. i think i have a way of doing it.

i allready tryed to just throw it in there and see if the anao will stick.

guess what it didnt!.

from what we can gather, alumi and steel conduct ele at 2 diffrent rates. the anao bath is suposto go basicly till it wont conduct ele anymore. but the steel ring is still conducting ele. so it over anao's. and the dye wont stick.

so you say take the ring out, well they made it so you cant. the nurled the outside of the ring. if you found a way to take it out you would remove enuff metal that the new one either wouldnt stick or may be off center.

so i think i have found another way to do it. i will post tommarow on weather it works or not

Smokee_2_7 if you read this have barry call me before he trys anything, we talked about how he was going to try it, and i dont think it will work anymore. just have him call me before he trys anything.

i hope i can have some good news for you all tommarow.

Mossman
05-07-2003, 12:08 PM
How would caulking or some type of strong commercial sealant hold up in the anno bath? I was thinking you could cut a metal disk nearly to the size of the ID of the body, attach a wire or something to pull it out by, and seal it along the outside. Will the acid attack normal sealants?

datapimp69
05-07-2003, 12:36 PM
mossman wins a....

http://www.lepra.org.uk/cookie.gif

athomas
05-07-2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by NJsyndicate
Ok, call me the dummy here but what exactly happens to the SS ring in an anno. bath? From what I understand the chemicals in the anno. bath attack the SS and begin to dissolve it. If this is true isn't there a way to cover it (or plug that portion on the body) so that the chemicals don't react with the ring. Sure that portion of the inside won't be annoed but its on the inside so no one will see it and it'll save a ton of trouble. I ask this b/c I'm in the same boat, I don't wanna damage my micro body (its the older /// milling not the nre sss type) b/c ptp doesn't make it any more.

Yes, you are correct. The SS reacts violently in the acid when electrically charged. You can coat the exposed surface with a laquer finish that will protect the metal from this reaction. After the annodize is finished and sealed, you can remove the laquer with toluene or similar thinner.

datapimp69
05-07-2003, 12:43 PM
i FILLED the body with silcone, i mean filled.

had to wait till today for it to dry, and its going in the tanks tonight.

hope to have a update tommarow.

maximum
05-07-2003, 12:52 PM
I wait eagerly for the results.


- Maximum

ignatz
05-07-2003, 01:49 PM
<-- Needs a Micro re-ano'd too.

datapimp69 - Is this (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81312) the MicroMag you are talking about? Just wandering if I need to watch 2 threads.

Also, my MicroMag is factory ano'd (Tiger Stripe Blue) but the inside is flat black in color. Does that mean that the inside is un-ano'd?

datapimp69
05-07-2003, 01:51 PM
yea, thats the one

ChucktheMAGician
05-07-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Smokee_2_7
we still won't know for sure until chuck gets the gun back and attempts to shoot it. Carl

/me scratching head and trying to figure out how to fire the gun w/ a long stick!?;) :D

VanGogo
05-07-2003, 09:54 PM
lol Chuck, did you get your red stuff yet??

ChucktheMAGician
05-07-2003, 09:59 PM
I work late on Wednesdays so I never get back in town before 5. The usual "we missed you" slip was in my mailbox tho so I'll be at the post office when they open the door tomorrow!:)

datapimp69
05-07-2003, 10:41 PM
ok guys here we go, you tell me ???

http://www.sluggobodies.com/images/blackmicro2.jpg

well what do you think?

ok im sure you want to know how to do it?

well first you get out your clear slicone and fill the top.
http://www.sluggobodies.com/images/blackmicro4.jpg

then you sela up the sides....
http://www.sluggobodies.com/images/blackmicro2.jpg
http://www.sluggobodies.com/images/blackmicro3.jpg
http://www.sluggobodies.com/images/blackmicro5.jpg

but not the back. heres what we did. you can buy sepcial masking WAX from the same people you get your anao stuff from.

so you melt the wax and pour it in the end till it covers the whole steel insert
http://www.sluggobodies.com/images/blackmicro6.jpg

then you anao it as allways.

and you get this
http://www.sluggobodies.com/images/blackmicro7.jpg


feel free to ask questions, this was the first one we did so im sure that this prosess can be refined. the point is that it works if you seal off the whole insert.

have fun.

maximum
05-07-2003, 11:18 PM
DataPimp.
THanks Man you saved my life!. Now hopefully the local anodizer will do this =).


*EDIT : Datapimp : Could you just pour wax in there to cover the Ring. That way mostly everything gets ano'd except that area where the steel ring is? thanks

- Maximum

datapimp69
05-08-2003, 07:50 AM
well you have to have something to stop the wax from just pouring out?

now this was special wax, made just for this, he should have it.

when you feel this wax it feels like it has plastic in it or something in it. it is eleastic wax, very strange.

ignatz
05-08-2003, 08:52 AM
That looks nice. Very nice. Do you have any before pictures for comparison? Was this a re-ano in a different color or the same color?

datapimp69
05-08-2003, 09:11 AM
it went from
bad milling (http://www.sluggobodies.com/images/badmill.jpg)

to

good mill (http://www.sluggobodies.com/images/goodmill.jpg)

to polish (http://www.sluggobodies.com/images/goodmill2.jpg)

then to what you se above

Bensongg
05-08-2003, 02:04 PM
That is one of the most beautiful micro bodies I have ever seen. Will you do that for me if I can get my hands on another micro body? How much would something like that run?...nevermind, I dont care how much. Its worth it.