A slightly different method for getting 30bps

[Mantis]

Behold, the ATS dual AT85. Or, as we refer to it, "Hansel." Hopefully I'll have a video up soon, or you can see it live this weekend at Hell Survivor's Global Conquest game.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/nkarpinski01/hansel1.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/nkarpinski01/hansel2.jpg

[Evil Bob]

What's the total weight on that beast?

-Evil Bob

[beefstew]

damn.
wow.
Yeah.
Cool
Phil

[Lopy-slopy]

cool:) is it suposed to spin like a gattling gun or are the barrels fixed. looks realy cool

[Mantis]

Well, the weight of each gun individually is listed at 3.5 pounds. Then you have to add the loaders, the paint, the stock, the brackets we made to hold them together... of course this is remote only, or it would be too much. I estimate it will be ~11 pounds fully loaded.
Also have to consider the 2 88's on my back and 7 150 rounds tubes :)
Edit, to answer new question:
No, they don't spin, it's just a side-by-side double barrel. Underneath the two barrels is an accessory rail we made from a plastic tube, so we could mount the bipod and foregrip.

[Koosh]

I thought full auto on the AT's was "only" 13 bps?

So you would "only" be doing 26 with that setup:D ;) :D Still looks cool!

[Recon by Fire]

Originally posted by Lopy-slopy
cool:) is it suposed to spin like a gattling gun or are the barrels fixed. looks realy cool


There are only two barrels, what you are probably looking at for the other barrels are the legs of a folded bipod.

Pretty nifty work there! Even at that weight it is pretty reasonable considering the weight of say a M60 MG, 26 lbs without ammo.

[Jazzman]

I dig it. Hate to be on the receiving end of it though. :)

[Mantis]

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/nkarpinski01/hansel4.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/nkarpinski01/hansel5.jpg

[FalconGuy016]

lol thats some crazy stuff!

[CrazyLad]

thats so awesome

[rhcp377]

that is insane. Id love to be behind that thing, hate to be in front

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

that looks awesome and its even lighter then some warped mags

[FooTemps]

that's awesome... what's the website for the ats website anyway?

[Tunaman]

Just be cool with it and dont pull it out in public...
You COULD catch a hail of .40 caliber damn damns if your not careful.:D :D

[Halliday]

That is awesome. I hope it works as cool as it looks.

[automan39]

that is really sweet. how much did that all cost?

[Jack & Coke]

Cool!

:cool:http://www.automags.org/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Mantis]

ATS website is www.getrealpaintball.com
No, my friends and I don't take out any of our realistic looking markers or airsoft guns in public. My friend got an AT4, and it looks quite realistic - if it were in shadow w/o a loader, it could be mistaken for an AR10 quite easily, but he always wraps in his jacket or puts it in a bag.
And the cost wasn't too bad, it's sorta the reason I came up with the idea - they had a 2 for 1 sale :) around $500 initially, plus the extras (stock, bipod, foregrip, materials). The kicker was the air tanks :( but I couldn't stop once I got going!
Kinda waiting to see what people's reaction will be when they get shot at with this... if you've ever been around an AT being fired, you'll know they're LOUD. Easily the loudest marker I've ever heard. And this is two!

[Konigballer]

By God thats a MAN's GUN!!

[Adrenaline0520]

11 lbs with everything, thats it for that monster!? Thats how much the original Shocker with tank and paint weighed, I'd much rather tote that around though(AT) than the Shocker.

[Wat]

The AT85s were listed at 13bps on CO2. On HPA they run faster, 15bps. They're also surprisingly light weight due to their composite bodies.

When you're done playing with that, i'd love to see a shorty version.

[Psycho Chicken]

That thing is way sweet mantis, wish i could come up to hell this weekend.

[m-98]

The one game I want to go to I can't make, and I miss this. Will it be at other HS games?

[Brenten]

good pictures

[Mantis]

Thanks for the comments everybody!
It should be making appearances at all the big games at Hell Survivor's this summer... probably Shatnerball 2 as well. Hmmm, think I can still play with the Automag crew if I'm shooting this? I'll just have to bring my Sydarm along as well :)
We probably would have made a shorty version, but the AT10's didn't go on sale until the month after the AT85's. I already have one AT10 body though, so I might be able to persuade myself to get another if everything goes well.
As for the RoF, we'll just have to wait until I can get a movie. I've heard of them going as fast as 16, with the minimum being around 12. I guess I could deal with 24 bps... if I had to.

[Mantis]

I hope this works, I've never posted a movie before.
Sorry, it's a 10 meg download. I recorded on my Cannon s400, and that's what it gave me. I'm not sure how to change the format.
So, if anybody can extract the sound file, I'd appreciate a wave analysis of how fast it's shooting (remember to multiply by 2!!)

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/nkarpinski01/testfire.avi

[ugabiged88]

That is one of the coolest paintball guns that I have ever seen! I want to shoot it soo bad.

[Natural Newbie]

That thing is crazy! I love your Mantis sig pic, it's hilarious!

[ASDadam]

OMG Dude, don't EVER point that thing at me during a game. heh. Jesus imagine using that during a senario game for a defensive position. Awesome job dude.

[Wat]

Dunno why people like ported barrels to make their gun quiter. A louder gun is much more fun and nothing is as lound as an AT.

BTW, Mantis how did you make a hopper right version of the vL clip mod? Doesn't the chain get in the way?

[Mantis]

Credit for my sig pic has to go to Potatoboy.
Feeding the beast, or the right hand side in particular, was hands-down the hardest part of the whole thing. We ended up taking a VL magazine faceplate, cutting off the elbow section and epoxying it onto the back half of the magazine. It sits up higher because of the chain. Then we had to mess with a bunch of small guide plates to get the paint to feed right. We also ended up having to carve out a small section of the magazine well since the elbow now sat up too high to allow the magazine all the way in.

Again, if there's anybody that could download the vid and figure out the rate of fire, I'd greatly appreciate it.

[RamboPreacher]

Very nice. Hope we can get together sometime and have a duel!

also check the videos of my Grinder in action (http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/techpages/index.htm)

[Mantis]

Man, I didn't expect to get into an arms race...
Guess I'll have to start production on a four barrelled one next ;)

[giant1515]

I would hate to be on the receiving end of that... but it looks like with that you'd be great in a squad support or defensive position in a scenario.

[skife]

i didn't see you at global conquest what team did you play on?

me and my friends play canada! HAHA
we got our butts kicked all day and still came in 4th

[FalconGuy016]

That is probably the coolest thing ive seen in a while :) Want to tell us how you did it?

[fuzzbubble]

coming from a fellow chinaman(go yellow) that thing ripped, my only on feild experience with it was watching it tear into 5 different countries armies while china and usa held the last base in the closing minutes of the global conquest game, even though china got screwed by everyone cept eachother it was definately the coolest gun on the feild:eek:

[SlipknotX556]

I have an even easier way to get 30 bps.

Take 30 paintballs, put them in your hand, throw them.

30 bps

[bleachit]

your dual AT85 kinda sounds like the SAW on Ghost Recon. I wonder how many people would surrender to it just from hearing it?

[ZCute]

way to much *Fluffing* free time.


(i censored my own post before i posted it :) now THATS efficiant).

[ZCute]

Originally posted by SlipknotX556
I have an even easier way to get 30 bps.

Take 30 paintballs, put them in your hand, throw them.

30 bps

laugh out loud rolling on the floor laughing my freaking *** off hah hah giggle giggle good game

[WicKeD_WaYz]

tight gun. that would scare the hell outa me before you even pulled the trigger(s)..

thats my next question. Is it operated by one single trigger or 2? My guess would be 2. So its basically 2 seperate guns bolted together to make one badass gun?

[skife]

i think its 1 trigger but i'm not sure, look at the pics closely it only shows 1 trigger frame

[Jerhew]

hehehe
love it man
you used it at global conquest?
was full auto permitted?
i love my AT-85 but it's just not as fun if i can't use full auto :(
i usually end up using my rt since it's easily 3x as fast as my AT is in semi

[Blazestorm]

slip, I'm going to do that next time I go to the field.

Hey guys check it out 40 bps!!!!! and throw 40 balls. Seee! 40 bps!