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magmasta1234
08-18-2003, 12:38 PM
why do people buy a new x-mag then put a crappy 12volt revy on it? i know they r reliable and everything but so slow on the 20+ bps mag, buy a cocker if u wanna do that. haha(jk) but who needs the x-mag when all thy have is a 12volt revy?:confused:

Grasshopper
08-18-2003, 12:52 PM
Clare said it can keep up at least pretty good. With the LX, she doesn't worry about chops. She said she liked it because of the way it looks, and the weight (I think).

Surreal
08-18-2003, 12:55 PM
face the facts, most people can't shoot over 10 bps no matter what gun they're shooting. even with fanning, or walking the trigger, it's difficult to achieve high rates of fire over a period of time.

the reason to use a 12v with an xmag, is because the xmag has an eye as well as level10, you will never chop with it. so really you an use a regular vl200 if you wanted to, it just depends on how fast you can shoot the marker. i can outshoot a 12v on my impulse, even though it's a little difficult. i personally would probably never use anything less than the egg2 from this day on.

Creative Mayhem
08-18-2003, 12:56 PM
Welcome to AO..

Let me take a stab at your question... Let's see, although your logic is somwhat correct, you need to realize that most people can't shoot faster than 15-17BPS Not to mention the fact that you usually aren't throwing that volume all at once. You would usually just be shooting 3-5 balls at a time.. it's called snap shooting ;) JK seriously.. most people just don't phyically need the fast loader cause thier fingers can't pull the rigger fast enough to out shoot the revvy, and if they do, there's always LVL10 and ACE to make up for any misfed balls. Hope it helped.

CM

Surreal
08-18-2003, 01:02 PM
just ignore CM, he's canadian. (:p)

the only real problem with revvy's is their feeding while tilted. i find it extremely easy to outshoot them when the gun is held at an angle. that's another reason while i'll probably never go back to a revvy. but, grasshopper was right with the size/weight thing. they are unbeatable in that category for their performance.

magmasta1234
08-18-2003, 01:04 PM
all right guys, w/ my trigger job even my little bro can outshoot a revy. its the gun i guess. then sometimes the revy misfeeds. i found that out in my last tourny:mad: and i chopped, but now i have the level 10 no breakage!!!

magman007
08-18-2003, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Surreal
face the facts, most people can't shoot over 10 bps no matter what gun they're shooting. even with fanning, or walking the trigger, it's difficult to achieve high rates of fire over a period of time.



the problem is, its becomming easier and easier for people to get high ROF. at the IAO i saw people left and right walking the otb frames, and the new Marker from Actionmarkers. Also, e-mags were being walked alot, and fast as well.

I now realize, while the halo is supperior in feeding, that it is dman heavy compared to my old 9volt. I actually played with ym 9 volt the otherday, because my halo died. Il tell you, id didnt keep up with my 13bps walking, but it did do surprizingly well

Dayspring
08-18-2003, 01:16 PM
Trigger job on what? A mag? A timmy? A talon?


Originally posted by magmasta1234
all right guys, w/ my trigger job even my little bro can outshoot a revy. its the gun i guess. then sometimes the revy misfeeds. i found that out in my last tourny:mad: and i chopped, but now i have the level 10 no breakage!!!

Benfica4ever
08-18-2003, 01:18 PM
Even though it can do over 20bps, doesent mean people are going to be doing it.

magmasta1234
08-18-2003, 01:24 PM
a trigger job on a mag:D

magmasta1234
08-18-2003, 01:28 PM
revys are a lot cheaper than like a eggy 2 or halo B but the tourny player needs the extra speed, or atleast thats what I think so when looking at pros in like nppl and so many have revys I have to question why they choose this 11bps loader w/ a fricking fast gun, its crazy. i mean they are pros so they should be ale to shoot over 14 bps. u guys agree?

Dayspring
08-18-2003, 01:28 PM
Heh... There is no such thing...

Lemme guess, you either shaved the sear or twisted the trigger rod towards the trigger.


Originally posted by magmasta1234
a trigger job on a mag:D

LaW
08-18-2003, 01:32 PM
yeah what dayspring just said.....


but I use an empire reloader revvy and will never get something else. I can shoot around 13bps when I really get on it but I have only outshot the reloader once and nothing happend because I hade my ACE and lvl10 in my sfl.... I could never use a halo, those things are just heavy and ruin the balance of my marker.

magmasta1234
08-18-2003, 01:43 PM
all right dayspring i said it wronge. I bought the ULE trigger pull kit. it makes the shooting much faster.:p

FalconGuy016
08-18-2003, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by magmasta1234
all right dayspring i said it wronge. I bought the ULE trigger pull kit. it makes the shooting much faster.:p

llllllllloooooollllllll he owned you all! :p
Record yourself shooting with a microphone

Dayspring
08-18-2003, 01:48 PM
Well, there's a BIG difference. ;)

magmasta1234
08-18-2003, 01:49 PM
haha nice try to make me look bad:( haha jk

SyntaxError
08-18-2003, 02:12 PM
12v's are lighter and give a smaller target signature than a halo or egg. They're better for fronts who need to have a light setup that shows less. It has nothing to do with feed rate.

magmasta1234
08-18-2003, 02:14 PM
thank u syntax error, u do still see fronts w/ eggs but the smarter choice is probably a vl for the stuff u listed

magmasta1234
08-18-2003, 02:15 PM
a revy i mean haha

LaW
08-18-2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by magmasta1234
a revy i mean haha

what the heck is your problem? english?

FalconGuy016
08-18-2003, 02:51 PM
Save the hassle, get a halo b :)

EsPo
08-18-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by FalconGuy016
Save the hassle, get a halo b :)
Save the weight and money... get a rev and lx (if you have a mag)

If I had ANY sort of reliable anti chop mechanism (be it an eye or a bolt) I would choose a rev as a hopper. PERFECT balance.. super light.. and relatively fast, especially with reloader.

Egg just messed with the weight on any gun i had. i didnt like it too much except for when it was on my imp.. it sucked on my cocker.

RRfireblade
08-18-2003, 03:33 PM
I use a Rik all the time on my R/T/X Micro.The light weight is really nice for a change and the ROF on short bursts is pretty decent.Just another reason to love the L10.


Jay.

heftylefty
08-18-2003, 04:28 PM
well i think that you dont need to shoot fast, just accurately. thats y i like revvys, they keep up just fine for me.

SyntaxError
08-18-2003, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by EsPo
it sucked on my cocker.

lol...it did? where can I get one of these??:D

SyntaxError
08-18-2003, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by magmasta1234
thank u syntax error, u do still see fronts w/ eggs but the smarter choice is probably a vl for the stuff u listed

No problem man

magmasta1234
08-18-2003, 10:24 PM
what do u guys think about getting a revy for a back player?

Bad_Dog
08-18-2003, 11:07 PM
I cant believe nobody's mentioned warp feed... if your just throwin a 3-5 ball string, the warp will pick up the slack for the revvy...

RoadDawg
08-18-2003, 11:25 PM
In my mind the best hopper is the Rico. For one if you have a warp setup like I do then it sits nice and tight w/o modding. Plus you can get bounces off the shell from time to time. Now as far as the 12v on a 20bps gun is simple. People just prefer the 12v more then say anything else. I personally don't like 12v revs anymore. I like the Rico's and TSA much better. Especially on a warp setup. I'll be getting a Halo here shortly to accomodate my Emag.

Top Secret
08-18-2003, 11:29 PM
I prefer running the Reloader/Revy on my guns because A. its lighter weight and B. They don't obstruct your view nearly as much as a HALO or Evo2.

I have alot of faith in the various antichop stuff(Eyes, Low cocking pressure/LX) on my guns and they plain rock with the Revy/Reloader.

beefstew
08-18-2003, 11:51 PM
HALO

magmasta1234
08-19-2003, 11:45 AM
what about the new halo tsa? how bot that? anyone know bout that?

darklord
08-19-2003, 12:10 PM
Personally I would rather have the extra weight and cost of the HALO just for assurance that I don't have any gaps in the streams I'm shooting. A revvy may be okay for snap shooting, but not for covering lanes.

RoadDawg
08-19-2003, 12:27 PM
The TSA's aren't bad but they aren't as fast as a Halo A or B. They feed at the same rate as a 12v Revvie. They do feed faster when at a tilt. I was able to fire mine at a 90* until it was about half way through the hopper. I wish I had the LCD version instead. So many more features.

Lord_Whoopass
08-19-2003, 11:02 PM
I will drop a bomb here... Most of the time when pros have revvy's they have faster boards on them than even the x-board or turbo rev boards... that most consumers cant get... just a lil info for ya's...

dinger
08-19-2003, 11:17 PM
from my experience, the revy12v isn't that great... the feedneck cracks, i tooo easily outshot it using a piranha core O_o, and it seemed cheaply made.

im not too sure if all of that is true though. because i shot my friends revy12v right on the hindge of the hopper lid, and smacked the thing right off!! resulting him with a ***** revy.

thats only me though... makes me want a empire or a richochet [only cuz my dad wont get me an egg >_<]