How many shots with a 48ci tank?

[Automag88]

Hey, I was wondering how many shots people can get out of a 48ci 3000psi tank on a Mag with a Classic valve. Thanks a lot.

[athomas]

You should get about 500 shots of a 48/3000 tank. The actual efficiency will vary depending on the barrel you use and the velocity you have set.

[chizle97]

i have the same type of tank and it is not many at all. sometimes i have to get it filled after one game depending on how much i shoot. that good i go to a field with all day air.

[i_baked_cookies]

i get 400 shots :(

[Lemon]

Well, I will be running about a 12" barrel, a TINY bit less efficient, but a tiny bit more accuracy.

So yeah. Still wondering about how many shots I would get out of a 48/3k in a 68 classic.

Also if anyone knows how many shots a 48 would deliver in a stock 2003 BKO with a 14" barrel. These guns run at <100psi.
For my friends sake.

Thanks again.

[Lemon]

Both are set at 280fps.

(Note: The ideal fps for mags is 280.)

[mag hugger]

yah i have a 14" j&j ceramic and my fps is set to about 280 and i get about 425 shots off mine:( :) thats not to bad i guess

[athomas]

Just saying you have 10" or 12" or 14" barrel doesn't say much. The amount of porting also has an effect. Ideally, a level 7 automag requires about 10" to 11" of unported barrel to get maximum efficiency. A level 10 automag would require a little longer barrel because of the way the bolt releases the air.

That being said, an 12" All-American barrel with lots of porting will be less efficient than any 12" unported barrel with the same inside diameter.

Paint that is too big for the barrel will also have a negative affect on efficiency.

[ckyguy]

i used to get about 5-600 shots with my mag that had a 12" dye stainless with the cheap 48/3000

[Lemon]

What exactly does porting accomplish?

All I can see it doing is requiring more air to have the ball exit the barrel at the desired velocity because as it moves down the ported section the pressure vents.

Sure it looks cool but does it have a positive effect?
Are ported barrels better than unported barrels?
Why?

Still wondering how many shots a BKO would get with a 48...

Thanks guys.

[athomas]

A ported barrel is essentially a short barrel with a long muzzle brake. By venting the air, some of the noise is also reduced because the blast at the end of the barrel is nonexistent. Muzzle brakes do seem to help the trajectory of odd miss shaped balls.

[Mer]

You're going to get about 10 shots per cubic inch with a 3000 PSI tank. Maybe a little more, maybe a little less. It depends on the set-up.

Eric

[Lemon]

I still don't get something.

Lets say we have a mag and a BKO, both with the same barrel.

Would the bko with and opperating pressure of >100psi get more shots from a 48cu/3000psi than a mag running at around 400-500psi?

[Lemon]

P.S.
When I say >100psi it is understood that means 'less than', because I really believe that is the way it is supposed to be.

I think saying >100psi is stating there is a number greater than it, it is simply not shown. Objections?

[ZyperioN]

The bushy might get slighty more shots but not much more. The mag although operates at a higher pressure uses a smaller volume of air than compared the bushmaster which uses a lower pressure but a far larger volume. All guns use the same amount of energy to propel the paintball to 300fps no matter the operating pressure. The factor that determines whether one gun gets more shots per fill is efficency or how much gas is wasted during the firing cycle, wasted gas is gas that is not used to propel the paintball. For example the gas used to cock the autococker is not used to propel the paintball and is therefore wasted. Now onto a somewhat different topic, if an auto-cocker used a solenoid ram similar to the emag's solenoid to cock the gun, then it would get more shots per tank. Just like how a WGP sniper will get more shots per fill than an autococker because (even though the internals are the same) the cocking action is performed by the shooter instead of using gas from the tank. Well now that i've sufficently rambled on and given an explaination that probably explains more than you asked about..... Hope this, well some of this, helps explain it to you.

[TSalPaintball]

I used to have this sized tank on my mag with a AA barrel,which has a ton of porting and i got about 450-500 shots from it.

[Lemon]

Is there a way to measure the volume of air being used in each shot?

Speaking of cockers, my mag is gonna turn into my backup when I have some money in the bank. There is no sense dropping over a grand for an x-valve and a hyperframe if it isn't going to get any better than that. Any suggestions on where to turn next (don't say X-Mag plz)?

Sorry to threadjack, but his question has been answered.

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