new body designs

[Syko89]

Truthfully, in my experience running a lvl 7 over a 10 is always a bad idea. Just the weight difference alone is enough to have a drastic difference in kick, and multiply that by a higher rate of fire and it only gets worst. Plus, even to this day, a lvl10 is STILL one of the best bolt systems to use on fragile paint.

If anyone would want to run eyes, I would recommend a lvl 10 with the stock lvl7 spring for the best of both worlds.

Yeah I didn't think about the weight part of it.

[BigEvil]

Correct me if I am wrong. If people are utilizing the eyes then you could go with a lvl 7 bolt and this would solve that problem. I realize that some people might not run eyes and lvl 10 would be a nice back up but just wondering.

Truthfully, in my experience running a lvl 7 over a 10 is always a bad idea. Just the weight difference alone is enough to have a drastic difference in kick, and multiply that by a higher rate of fire and it only gets worst. Plus, even to this day, a lvl10 is STILL one of the best bolt systems to use on fragile paint.

If anyone would want to run eyes, I would recommend a lvl 10 with the stock lvl7 spring for the best of both worlds.

[Syko89]

Piece of advice on the detents - the Ego ones might be problematic with the lvl 10. If they don't clear the bolt easily, it might make the lvl 10 retract. Most of the guns that use these types of detents have small slots milled into the bolts to aid the detents and prevent premature wear. Most spoolers use a ball and spring type detent. You might want to consider the ones that the Axe uses if the ego ones don't work out.

Correct me if I am wrong. If people are utilizing the eyes then you could go with a lvl 7 bolt and this would solve that problem. I realize that some people might not run eyes and lvl 10 would be a nice back up but just wondering.

[Dark Side]

Just make sure whatever you go with is readily available for years to come. :

fixed.

[BigEvil]

good thinking Big Evil, ill make the prototype with the ego style ones and see how they perform, its easy to change to a circular sprung type detent like the creed/demon use would be an easy conversion

Just make sure whatever you go with is readily available. :

[renie]

Piece of advice on the detents - the Ego ones might be problematic with the lvl 10. If they don't clear the bolt easily, it might make the lvl 10 retract. Most of the guns that use these types of detents have small slots milled into the bolts to aid the detents and prevent premature wear. Most spoolers use a ball and spring type detent. You might want to consider the ones that the Axe uses if the ego ones don't work out.

good thinking Big Evil, ill make the prototype with the ego style ones and see how they perform, its easy to change to a circular sprung type detent like the creed/demon use would be an easy conversion

[splat15k]

Piece of advice on the detents - the Ego ones might be problematic with the lvl 10. If they don't clear the bolt easily, it might make the lvl 10 retract. Most of the guns that use these types of detents have small slots milled into the bolts to aid the detents and prevent premature wear. Most spoolers use a ball and spring type detent. You might want to consider the ones that the Axe uses if the ego ones don't work out.

That's a good point. J4 Torque detents look like an excellent option as well.

[BigEvil]

Piece of advice on the detents - the Ego ones might be problematic with the lvl 10. If they don't clear the bolt easily, it might make the lvl 10 retract. Most of the guns that use these types of detents have small slots milled into the bolts to aid the detents and prevent premature wear. Most spoolers use a ball and spring type detent. You might want to consider the ones that the Axe uses if the ego ones don't work out.

[Spiritchaser]

I love the look and the idea that the detents and feedneck will be modernized... And I bet it would look great with my airwalk... But a question: I would never consider putting eyes in this. Would you make one without eye milling (or with some type of plug?) I would prefer to avoid any cavities for paint shells/gunk/oil/snow to get into.

I'm not sure if I can afford one of these... But if I can, my wife will be getting my tac.

[livebrando]

Renie, I'm always a fan of your work. Count me in for one!

[grub]

Are these going to be designed for standard automag trigger frames or for Ego frames?

-grub

[knownothingmags]

3) throw out a number on about what what these will cost like. just so some of us can start saving.

like any new uni body that is thought of I just automatically set my saving number to $600
that way if its less then I have money to do other stuff with.
but that's just me.

[Nobody]

Renie: things you need to do.

1) come up with a name. if you don't have one in mind, then start a post about suggestions for a name.
2) when closer, start a post of interest or dibs, so we can get in line for these.
3) throw out a number on about what what these will cost like. just so some of us can start saving.

[sjrtk]

i would be in for one of these. Looks sweet.

[maverick13]

Do you got an idea of the price range ?