why doesn't every new Automag look like this?

[captian pinky]

rawbutter, I'll design and manufacture the frame, trigger and aluminum grips, I'll even set it up for pneumatics, T-Rex and MSV2/MPA builds. But I have no interest selling them so you would have to buy the whole batch, probably 75 minimum. That would cover my end and leave a little on the bone for you.

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and it won't be done with a dremel......

[luke]

rawbutter, I'll design and manufacture the frame, trigger and aluminum grips, I'll even set it up for pneumatics, T-Rex and MSV2/MPA builds. But I have no interest selling them so you would have to buy the whole batch, probably 75 minimum. That would cover my end and leave a little on the bone for you.

[cougar20th]

Biggest problem I see isn't designing, or making the frames. Its making the rubber grips that are specific to a frame. The investment is huge and if that frame doesn't sell the lose would be.

And buying grips from dye in this case wouldn't be a viable option for a large run of frames. If they discontinue or sell out of the grips before you buy all you need your screwed. Its always a bad idea to rely on another supplier for what is such a essential part.

Something like this would be a project better suited for Luke, Xmt or myself where low quantity isn't a issue and buying a few grips from dye isn't a issue.


My personal opinion is the frame is to long and eliminates to large a portion of automag owners. Some like myself are stuck with being able to only use minimag length rails for things like pumpmags.

[Redic]

Yeah AGD make a marker that looks like everything else

[Walker]

Ughhh... That Dye frame looks terrible....


Walker

[smallerfreeze]

Unfortunately it's not a customizable platform, plus it's not ULE milled, all things that the Automag community expects these days.

yea that does suck... for my classic im about to pull the trigger on one though, literally and figuratively pun also intended

[luke]

the new x-frame looks really good i think.. $140 bucks but it comes with sweet trigger choices, so i guess thats basic enough

Unfortunately it's not a customizable platform, plus it's not ULE milled, all things that the Automag community expects these days.

[smallerfreeze]

i like that automags are basic-looking and utilitarian. i also like that they are easily customizable, so you can set them up how you like. nicer parts are a lot more expensive, thus the more basic options from agd.

the new x-frame looks really good i think.. $140 bucks but it comes with sweet trigger choices, so i guess thats basic enough

i like that automags are basic-looking and utilitarian. i also like that they are easily customizable, so you can set them up how you like. nicer parts are a lot more expensive, thus the more basic options from agd.

[going_home]

Personally I've never cared for mags with Dye or Planet Eclipse frames, but that's just me.

If you like it, that's all that matters.

[smallerfreeze]

everyone has their own unique and magical mag taste... personally i kind of like the dye nt frame and trigger.. but i can understand mag purists dislike for things of the nature

[rawbutter]

AGD wouldn't even want to make something similar to a Dye frame because of the potential for a lawsuit.

You really think that's part of the issue? I don't think it's possible to patent a shape. I mean, if AGD made something exactly the same, then yeah, that's a problem. But If it was only inspired by the shape and had different mounting holes and a different trigger and some different internal brackets...

Besides, the current AGD x-frame uses Dye sticky grips. If it's not a problem now, I don't see why it would be a problem for a redesign.

[Nobody]

UL frames are too thin and uncomfortable.

Splinter rail, eh. I have seen better looking ones.

Never minded the slant or longer nose of a ULE body.
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The quick of it. Cockers are sexy, everything else is sexy, new and a fad. Mags are none of this. You have to hit the mark of a new product, in order to garner interest. Hell, the X frame has been out for months, yet how many MotM have even featured it? We oursleves, by not even buying direct from the factory are causing this. You want money for newer, updated designs? Money talks, bulls**t talks.

[awo702]

I'm with Luke on that. I guess it's all about personal preference though.


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[luke]

That DYE frame is hideous, and that trigger! lol (Sorry)

I dont really see what's so special about the rail either(?)