Electro Logic Vert Automag Frame????????

**Nick O time** · 12-03-2003, 05:18 PM

what do you guys mean when u say centerflag parts??? i have the hyperframe and that has all of the parts i need right? i am kinda confused. lol

i also hope if he does make the frame it will have a cool looking trigger.(i don't like how the hyperframe triggers look, too basic)

**Cryer** · 12-03-2003, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Nick O time
...i also hope if he does make the frame it will have a cool looking trigger.(i don't like how the hyperframe triggers look, too basic)

As long as they dont follow too closely to some of the timmi triggers I've seen... I like the Viking Razor blade trigger. Thats nice.

**Prezents** · 12-03-2003, 05:30 PM

Here is what it would be:
If Coolhand made the frame......
You would have to purchase the frame from him $110.00+++ the extra milling???

You would have to get the electronic parts from Center Flag Products or if you have a hyperframe just swap them over

I just called Center Flag.
Electronics cost:
battery clip $5.00
Micro switch $5.00
PC board $99.00 (20 bps board)
Solenoid $45.33
This is Joe Blow off the street calling in and asking price.

**Cryer** · 12-03-2003, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by Prezents
Here is what it would be:
If Coolhand made the frame......
You would have to purchase the frame from him $110.00+++ the extra milling???

You would have to get the electronic parts from Center Flag Products or if you have a hyperframe just swap them over

I just called Center Flag.
Electronics cost:
battery clip $5.00
Micro switch $5.00
PC board $99.00 (20 bps board)
Solenoid $45.33
This is Joe Blow off the street calling in and asking price.

Also what about the on/off? dont you have to get a special one a those, too? Or is that just for the classic valve?

Maybe someone here could be a centerflag dealer so as to pass on better prices to teh AO masses...?

**blakdragon21** · 12-03-2003, 06:35 PM

Please do it coolhand and make it affordable cause I really want to keep my mag. If you do i will for sure keep my mag.

**Aegis** · 12-03-2003, 10:04 PM

Ok, guys, this might sound nuts but since it is a custom job from word go - it might be worth looking at the Egrip from Tippmann. I had one on an A5 and it ripped. It has two key advantages: It is from Tippmann, and it is cheap compared to a hyperframe.

It is also a very small package, designed for a sear tripper.

Don't know if the solenoid is strong enough - I might have one in my hands soon, if so I will donate it to the cause for (non-destructive) testing.

I am talking about using the guts (board, solenoid) from the egrip, not adapting the Egrip to a mag.

**Prezents** · 12-04-2003, 10:53 AM

The idea of the project is to have a very good looking and different trigger frame than anything else that is on the market.
Coolhand is making a great unique frame at a great price.
If he was able to add the hyper frame electronics this will add more function to it.
I would not like to see another slap on trigger frame that looks Blan (A5 frame).
I know that price is an issue for most of us, but look at the amount of money that we have already put into our Mags.
This would be another step for us to creating our own unique toy

**Nick O time** · 12-04-2003, 06:29 PM

have you talked to him? is he thinking about it? i must know.

lol

**Crimson_Turkey** · 12-04-2003, 10:20 PM

I'd definitly suggest A-5 E-grip internals. Tippmann rules. And it's a hell of alot cheaper.

**ExtremeODD** · 12-04-2003, 10:30 PM

if i had a mag, i would order... but alas i do not... sorry

**coolcatpete** · 12-04-2003, 11:14 PM

I will get one for sure
Peter

**Toranaga** · 12-04-2003, 11:29 PM

In responce to Crimson_Turkey:
Does the e-grip allow you to set the dwell?
That is one of the reasons to get the centerflag one.

**Aegis** · 12-04-2003, 11:49 PM

I'll answer about the egrip -

No dwell settings. You can set firing mode only. one shot, burst, turbo, auto, maybe something else I forgot. There is also a ROF adjustment. The A5 is a sear tripper, so dwell is not really an issue. They are basically chop-proof, with the cyclone feed. It is either ready to fire, or not.

I had and A5 before tuning in to the mag world, and I can tell you that an A5 in turbo mode just flat rips.

**Nick O time** · 12-04-2003, 11:59 PM

is it even possible for A5 internals(in the grip frame that is) to operate a mag? i mean does the A5 contain all the necisary parts to even correctly/properly fire a mag? also there is no reason to have any of those modes unless you play woods ball or scenario. but i guess if you just want to mess around, i personally never have used my burst modes on my hyper and i don't think i ever will. i dunno though do you really need those modes?

**Aegis** · 12-05-2003, 12:08 AM

No, you don't need those modes. Turbo is fun, but I am a semi auto guy. Just reporting on what it does.

I just brought it up for these reasons:

Cheap

Tippmann Support

Micro switch activated

Electric solenoid trip

Cheap

Small size

Cheap

The big question would be does the solenoid have the guts to trip a mag sear.

**Big'n slo** · 12-05-2003, 09:47 AM

With the ULT on/off I'm sure it would fire the mag, especially a classic valve.

I'd be in for electro ready vert frame

**speedyejl** · 12-05-2003, 11:23 AM

Can we see some feedback from Logic?

**Digits** · 12-05-2003, 07:51 PM

ok.. sounds nice.. but why would you have to use hyperframe internals?

I don't think it would matter that much about what internals you used as long as the sear tripper worked right.

**Snapps** · 12-05-2003, 10:12 PM

If this becomes reality, I'm all for it...

**Prezents** · 12-05-2003, 10:33 PM

Center flag has a system that works, why would you want to try and change it to something that you do not know if it will work with a mag sear.

**hostage** · 12-05-2003, 10:33 PM

heh...funny you mention this, cause a friend and I are going to make a revolutionary electronic vertical automag grip frame, looks like I have some good compoition.

-Hostage

**Crimson_Turkey** · 12-05-2003, 10:36 PM

I'd think it would have the power to operate a mag, it can push the A-5's sear.

**Aegis** · 12-05-2003, 11:15 PM

I love this idea, can't stop thinking of alternatives. The idea of a morlock activating an air solenoid from a timmy with a little ram to trip the sear.... ooooohhh.

**chris007** · 12-06-2003, 04:09 AM

yes,and it's about time someone is doing this!

**logamus** · 12-06-2003, 01:21 PM

just curious but there are two pages of comments and not one from CoolHand. is this something that is in serious discussion or just a random thought thrown out there?

**Creative Mayhem** · 12-06-2003, 03:42 PM

I'm in for one... heck, I'll even buy one if it's just mech like the min you have pictured at the top.

That thang just looks awesome!

**speedyejl** · 12-06-2003, 04:51 PM

buy one then

http://www.logicpaintball.com/

**logamus** · 12-06-2003, 06:13 PM

cm, they are awesome. i promise you that.

**Snapps** · 12-06-2003, 11:26 PM

......drop.....dead.....sexy.....

**KRAKMT** · 12-08-2003, 12:02 AM

The first post was in regards to an actual email from Coolhand. And as I eagerly await a mechanical grip frame I note that in the dealer’s forum he stated that he has been ill. That and the first batch came back from anno with spots. Hope Ryan didn't infect his grip-frames.

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