Agg Mag (mQ-Valve)

[mquinn96]

Well, a few of you knew this was in the works, but here it is in all its AGG glory!
Drum roll........

The Q Mag with an mQ-Valve running off an e-blade.
The beast was made in PBX Ballistix Labs. That is Mel holding it.
The sucker rips as fast as any gun out there.

This is an alpha prototype of an inline gun design. For simplicity's sake, we used parts that were readily available.

[soccer4minimags]

whoa, somebody actually got an eblade on a mag.

[evo.end3R]

i want one! thats sweet

[spantol]

Taking preorders?

[Ratzo]

Very cool!
That would be great showing up at the field and spanking all the E-Cockers with an E-Bladed Mag.
That would be serious M-AGGNESS.

[Dayspring]

If anybody is in line for this, I am.

[SpecialBlend2786]

Thats awesome! It would be even more so if you could get the Eblades eyes to work witht he mag

[Dayspring]

One project at a time...

[Chojin Man]

what the heck is a mQ-Valve?

[Dayspring]

PBX's new valve that (in a cocker) allows you to remove most of the reciprocating weight. It becomes fully pneumatic, doesn't require a secondary LPR (like the Osiris) and will work with ANY e-grip for the cocker (except the Uprising).

We've been tested by sound graph to be firing paint in excess of 30bps.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...hreadid=628338

[Carbon]

Mquinn

that is the shizzle. Now lets get a vid of the bad mofo shooting!

[PBX Ronin 23]

Alright, I have already asked DaySpring and I have a few questions that he referred me to you to answer.

1) Does it use the Mag sear assembly?
2) If no, whats holding the bolt back? If no bolt, whats pushing the ball into the breech?
3) Does it use Level 10? If not, how at those speeds do you keep the marker from chopping?
4) Does it still use a spring return? If not, is there a ram that returns the bolt to the original/cocked position? If no ram, and no spring, how does it work?
5) It appears to use the powertube front half of a mag valve. Does it, or is that a whole new assembly we are seeing in the pic?
6) If its just as fast as any other electro frame(hyperframe, e-mag frame, etc) what's the fucntional advantage of this over another?

ANSWERS:
1. No it doesn't. It actually replaces the entire valve assembly with something significantly lighter. The mQ-Valve, as platformed on a Cocker, did 36bps with the only limiting factor being the loader.
2. See above.
3. Can't go into detail as far as how it will not have the chopping problems associated with the Level-7's. But if this thing ever hits the market, some ball sensing system will be implemented.
4. See Answer no. 3. There is no Ram. The number of parts are drastically reduced as well as the overall weight of the gun.
5. Whole new assembly.
6. Speed. Simplicity. Ease of maintenance. Efficiency. Tuneability.

Although this has been something that I've privately mentioned to only my closest compadres, we've always wanted to do something a$$-kicking with the 'Mag.

Maybe we can now revive the age-old battle of the titans........Mags vs. Cockers.

[AGD]

So if it doesnt use the mag valve how is it a mag besides the body?

AGD

[Bonx0007]

strokes of genius usually come simultaniously..... It happens with many great inventions.

[PBX Ronin 23]

So if it doesnt use the mag valve how is it a mag besides the body?

AGD

Besides the body and rail, no.

[MindJob]

The real question Mel, is

Where can I get a shirt like that one?

[SPY 1]

That is a nice conversion but it´s not quite a mag but still very nice do. And yeah Mel that shirt is cool

[The Action Figure]

but the airlines are that of a mag, so is the vert asa

[Duck Hunt]

Sooooooooo no mag valve, just the body, rail and possibly powertube...doesn't sound like a Mag to me!!!

And as for the "Mags Vs Cocker" debate well, you can buy a stock mag now that beats the pants off of any stock cocker... so it looks like its settled!


I vote NOT A MAG

Sean

[PBX Ronin 23]

My bad......spring holds the bolt back.

[slade]

that looks awesome... i cant wait to hear more about it. as far as it not being a mag, it looks like just as much of a mag as a the osiris is a cocker.

[Adrenaline_Junkie]

At fist loom i was like SWEET! but after reading and stuff it said it doesnt use a mag valve and pretty much anything else that makes a mag a mag beside the body and rail. Its a sweet idea but its just not a mag.

[Dayspring]

Vengance Gear

The real question Mel, is

Where can I get a shirt like that one?

[slade]

oh yeah, and also... we want a vid

[Muzikman]

Hmm...yeah, if it doesn't use a Mag valve, then it's not much of a mag. Still interested in how it works.

[Miltonyz]

Sounds like a great idea to me. Keeping the compact single tube design of the mag, without having to worry about getting on the field due to bounce/hybrid mode. The valve is claimed to be lighter which is good. Seems like a definite upgrade.

[Lessthanusual]

Would you be able to use a e-mag trigger frame with that mq-valve?

Less.

[GT]

hhhmmmmm......... neat

[Goldie D Pimp]

Would you be able to use a e-mag trigger frame with that mq-valve?

Less.

I'm thinking that a production model won't look like that.

I believe this is a prototype and they made it from mag parts instead of having to build an entire gun.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

Wow, PBX is great. That is just amazingly nice. I guess you couild call it the Agg mag, it looks like it's only 2/3 of a real 'Mag. I was disappointed when I sold my cocker and couldnt get your frame, but now that has all changed. You guys are awesome.