So...How's it going?

[Nobody]

Look at it this way. Putin has his finger on the largest nuclear armament on the globe. You should listen.
Of course He is not trustworthy. Any more than Biden, Harris, Trump or any politician.
But you want to make him an enemy? Push a man like Putin over the edge into war?
I'm not saying allies, or even friends, just friendly enough L.A. doesn't go up in a mushroom cloud.
That's politics.

Wow, you don't trust fellow Americans by the letter behind your name. Here, I will put an R behind my name as I have now seen the light and am fully embracing the maga culture.

Still don't beleive me? Good, because no matter what, one would think that, while you should respect Putin, you also shouldn't think of him as your friend. But the simple fact that putin has interfered in our elections, and that he wants to see the west brought down, or at least diminished also means that Putin is working against our(the US) interests and global reach.

Putin is the scorpion qnd you are the frog. He will sting you just because he is a scorpion. Make no doubt about it. And with the US, NATO qnd the free world's support of Ukraine, he is not looking to put bygones aside. As long as the slithering idiot that will be in charge, doesn't give everything away, or think that he can make a deal with him that is good for everyone; Putin's hatred of the US and West won't be cooled by a few nice words.

Edot: Also, LA while being one of the largest ports on the Pacific, would be a secondary target in a nuclear war. You 1st have to eliminate the bases and potential offensive cou ter punch of your opponent. Now, depending upon the warhead yield, LA could fall under fallout of San Diego(again, the navy base & port there), but all possible 1st strike targets would be the main bases, air sea and ICBM, in addition to the central command, like DC, Norad. Most ICBMs from land bases would be flying over the north pole and hit in a north to south pattern, with naval nukes hitting key strategic points that are either missed, didn't go off, or where shot down, and then air launched would finish up on secondary and tertiary targets.

With that said, depending on which way the winds blow, west Virginia might be OK, but if you are anywhere close to No. Virginia, or on the east coast, like I am, you are in the fallout zone.

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

Look at it this way. Putin has his finger on the largest nuclear armament on the globe. You should listen.
Of course He is not trustworthy. Any more than Biden, Harris, Trump or any politician.
But you want to make him an enemy? Push a man like Putin over the edge into war?
I'm not saying allies, or even friends, just friendly enough L.A. doesn't go up in a mushroom cloud.
That's politics.

Putin can't even run over Ukraine. Their military is a disaster from the rampant corruption that has taken hold of it. Should the US arm Ukraine with weapons to hit in Russian territory? No. Poking the bear or a paper tiger (likely in this case) isn't wise. Take fiscal policy from Putin? Absolutely not.

I would extent my trust to Biden, Harris and even Trump way way way before any trust to Putin. They are not in the same stratosphere of corruption. Putin executes people that he doesn't like. Perhaps I need to say that a 3rd time with simpler language. PU-TIN MUR-DERS PEOPLE. Although I'm beginning to wonder about Trump with constant threats of using the US military on his political enemies.

The US shouldn't care about Russia thinks or doesn't think in regards to using US currency. Thinking you should listen to Russia on what dictates US policy with the US dollar is nonsense garbage.

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

Putin is the scorpion and you are the frog. He will sting you just because he is a scorpion.

100% this. I can't believe we have Americans running around thinking Putin is trustworthy even in a fractional sense 1/100000000000000000000000.

[Nobody]

Cool glad to see more and more Putin supporters. And you've drawn those conclusions based off of what?

Come now my friend, these people didn't drink the kool-aid, they took baths in the stuff. Nothing will dissuade them from their chosen one. For all he says is the truth. So be careful of the batteries in boats and then sharks, and doubly when those sharks are merged with the batteries.

[going_home]

Cool glad to see more and more Putin supporters. And you've drawn those conclusions based off of what?

But please tell me more about how much voter fraud was happening this time. I'm still waiting from one of you to respond to that.

None cares what you say, trolls are ignored.

There's only room for you under the bridge....

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

None cares what you say, trolls are ignored.

There's only room for you under the bridge....

Quite the rebuttal I must say.

You guys are as transparent as they come. Just changing the narrative to suit whatever nonsense you come up with. It must be nice to live in your shoes thinking President Trump is going to fix everything. It's like watching Idiocracy play out in real time except instead of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho it is President Trump. Trump had the very fortunate benefit of coming into office when Obama was leaving and he isn't going to get that benefit this time. I also expect no one here to take any sort of accountability for what actions President Trump takes since the blame will only be "the democrats, the democrats, the swamp, .... ".

It's really amazing how all the problems associated with your worldview can be boiled down to the democratic party. President Trump spent more money than Biden did and paid back less towards the debt but I bet you didn't even know that.

As someone who isn't registered to any party it's quite alarming how many people walk around thinking Trump is going to just solve all of the problems the US faces.

There's really no excuses for the republican party to 'right' every ship you guys think of. They have the Presidency, the house, the senate, and the supreme court in their back pocket.

[Nobody]

That is because the businessman that has had 7 bankruptcies, that had to be removed from his own charity cause it didn't give away any of the money collected, the great builder who never built a property(all the trump buildings were built by other people, trump only slapped some gold paint on it and his name); knows everything. Come on now. Buying real estate means you can exactly decipher the global maelstrom of the middle east. Buying golf clubs, means you know exactly how the global economic market works. Hawking pieces of grissled steaks for 3x their costs, means you know exactly how to do everything. It's not like he could have stopped a global pandemic, kept an inherited booming economy going, only to wind up with a bunch of federal indictments that would put a normal person away for multiple lifetimes. Come on, let the man work here...

Silly person.

[going_home]

In 2020 they were sore winners, now in 2024 they are sore losers.....

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

In 2020 they were sore winners, now in 2024 they are sore losers.....

I just want you to clear something up for me.

So you're saying that in 2020 Biden won the election and that the claims for widespread voter fraud were unfounded and the actions on January 6 were an attempt to overthrow the democratic process? Sounds like the republicans were also sore losers as well.

Or.... you can deny all of that and claim that widespread voter fraud existed and that Harris has a claim to the Presidency.

I'm gonna guess neither and that all the voter fraud magically got cleared up after 2020. Or.... maybe you guys think Rainbow land is a real place.





So which one is it?

[going_home]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_bFJxN8cTsI

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Eoe0Nmbzpo4


Get some help

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_bFJxN8cTsI

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Eoe0Nmbzpo4


Get some help

Having to resort to insults huh? Why don't you attack the argument instead of the person? I'm guessing because you don't actually have an answer.

Actively ignoring the point I made just proves what I said. You really did a fabulous job of painting yourself into a corner. Bravo.

“It's Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain.

[going_home]

You haven't ever made a point in any post.

You are still the only one under there.

[Nobody]

You haven't ever made a point in any post.

You are still the only one under there.

And Allan, in 8000+ pos5s, you haven't ever made a point.

If your convictions are as sound and rocksolid as you say thry are, thrn it would be easy to lay them out.

Case in point.
I do not like Smart parts products. I feel that the lawsuits thry did some 20 years ago destroyed innovation, in order to make their poorer products seem better. They also lied and cheated quite easily(early cheater 9 boards and porting makes paint shoot straighter). So while today, thry are no more, I personally hate anything associated with thrm, their products and their effect that it has caused.

That is explaining my views, laying out what I feel about a certain subject. If someone talks to me, I will answer them. It is you, who cannot back up what they say without any tangible opinion, resorting to insults.

[Pyrate Jim]

And Allan, in 8000+ pos5s, you haven't ever made a point.

If your convictions are as sound and rocksolid as you say thry are, thrn it would be easy to lay them out.

Case in point.
I do not like Smart parts products. I feel that the lawsuits thry did some 20 years ago destroyed innovation, in order to make their poorer products seem better. They also lied and cheated quite easily(early cheater 9 boards and porting makes paint shoot straighter). So while today, thry are no more, I personally hate anything associated with thrm, their products and their effect that it has caused.

That is explaining my views, laying out what I feel about a certain subject. If someone talks to me, I will answer them. It is you, who cannot back up what they say without any tangible opinion, resorting to insults.

So, even though Smart Parts is dead and buried you just want to piss on their grave? Sounds rather petty, beating a dead horse.
Holding onto your anger and swinging it around over your head, ready to strike even a message board over a different opinion?
There is a difference between not respecting a person and being disrespectful of that person.
But I will say that "tangible opinion" is an oxymoron.

[Nobody]

So, even though Smart Parts is dead and buried you just want to piss on their grave? Sounds rather petty, beating a dead horse.
Holding onto your anger and swinging it around over your head, ready to strike even a message board over a different opinion?
There is a difference between not respecting a person and being disrespectful of that person.
But I will say that "tangible opinion" is an oxymoron.

And then, you forget about GoG and whatever makers of the shocker and other guns. It is the same as the generation before you that refused to buy an Japanese car, after WW2. So it is not anger, with me. Just strong dislike. Now I don't go around the field and browbeat anyone that uses the near millions of ions, or shockers or the occasional impulse or any of their products. Hell, I shot the Doc Nickel molded Mt-Dew shocker and liked it. But I never gave them my money. It is called principle. You know, that thing all of you lack.

But the point here is, I have viewpoint, I explained why I don't like it, and you can either agree or disagree with that. I do not force my opinion onto anyone. If someone says why, I tell them why and leave it at that. Which in regards to the topic of this thread is the exact opposite. None of you can give any reason of why. You don't like to be questioned about your views and then use insults when questioned. So to most literate people means you have less credence on anything you say. Then when you are caught in your own logic, for example, the election was stolen cause trump lost. There is wide spread fraud happening. And then the next election, there is none of that talk, and mere mention of 2020 gets backhanded back, with you saying 'stop living in the past', or old news, we are looking towards the future.

So, me and SP get along. I have my reasons why I refuse their products. I won't use them(as my freak kit is from Empire and that's my story), but if you do, so be it.

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

You haven't ever made a point in any post.

You are still the only one under there.

Glad to see all of you refusing to acknowledge January 6 for what it actually was.

Good chance that Trump will drive this country to a recession with his economic policies and you'll only have yourselves to blame. Not that I'm terribly concerned because I'll just buy stock and another home at discounted prices and reap the rewards of it.


As far as Smart Parts goes... who shouldn't piss on their grave. They didn't invent the electronic marker and bought the patent to it via slimy means. Those clowns didn't have the ability / knowledge to build electronics. They are quite the definition of useless patent trolls. They provided zero value and probably still don't understand how electronics work.

[Pyrate Jim]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...c57daa235&ei=8

A quote:

On Sunday, the Kremlin’s official spokesman voiced cautious optimism about Trump’s upcoming presidency, saying: “At least he talks about peace. … He does not talk about confrontation.”
“He does not talk about a desire to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia, and this favorably distinguishes him from the current (U.S.) administration,” Peskov said.

[Nobody]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...c57daa235&ei=8

A quote:

So, it is supposed to be a good thing when you trade a sovereign country's land for peace, without consideration from that sovereign country? I found this disturbing from the party that advocates "from my cold, dead hands". So a carjacking comes at you with a gun in your face, you are supposed to give them your car? The government telling you, you should wear a mask and get vaccinated, and you should just comply?

These are example of how, not only has Russian propaganda and talking points infiltrated into the rhetoric which kind of goes against your own mantra. In this instance, you'll fight like he'll, but in the next, you acquiesce cause you don't want conflict? Are you that easily bought that you no longer care where the money and influence is coming from?

[Pyrate Jim]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Lpfacsk2kQY

[going_home]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Lpfacsk2kQY

Say it

[maniacmechanic]

No one wants war & no one want to pay for it, Most Americans had never heard of the Ukraine before this , Let the EU take care of their own backyard

[Nobody]

No one wants war & no one want to pay for it, Most Americans had never heard of the Ukraine before this , Let the EU take care of their own backyard

What's this talk of war? If you are talking about the Ukraine, the Ukraine only wants our weapons, which is ironically helping our economy and helping our MIC, in testing, using and evaluating the weapons of war that we sold them.

Firstly, anytime a budget/aid gets approved for Ukraine, it is not handing them huge stacks of cash. It is actually more of a shopping list that Ukraine gets to pick from. 155mm shells, rifle ammo, m3dical supplies, IFVs, APCs, general equipment that the US has stored. Then after the approvals are made, the US then rotates its stocks and can or will order new. For example, javelin ATGMs cost, $50k( not the actual p4ice, just a figure for this example). Ukraine wants 1k of them. That is 50mil. So the US deducts 50m off its aid package and Ukraine gets some tank busting missiles.

Second of all. Not once has Ukraine asked for any physical help, just arms and equipment. They don't want to entangle anyone else in their war, and so far, other than individuals who have gone over to fight in foreign battalion, as it were, the war hasn't shed any nation's blood. So aid, does not meanwe will or at war.

Third. The US is the world's police. When something happens, they call the US. We supply arms and equipment to Israel. We supply tanks, aircraft and equipment to those that are in our influence. We lay out Doctrine for how countries should act. We are importan, because we made ourselves important. That is why we have bases all over the world. If it doesn't effect us directly, we sure as he'll are going to be involved indirectly. Sometimes that indirect involvement is like Ukraine:bullets and tanks, orto be literally, moments away with a place like Taiwan. No amount of turning up your knows, will change that

Fourth. Our polices affect the world. There was the Iran nuclear deal, which pit restraint on Iran, which when removed accelerated the timeline of nuclear weapons from decades to mere years. Which that, now extends through the Misddle East, and our little friend Israel, through towards the Arabian Peninsula and East Africa and the Iran back Houthis, through to a world encompassing detail of global shipping. If the Suez canal is closed off because the terrorist attacks are too costly to shipping and the shipping companies, then the whole shipping mark3t will be bottlenecks with the now increased time to go around the whole of Africa.

Fifth ly. What is war? Tuesday last time the US declared was was Dec 8, 1941. Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Kuwair/Iraq, the former territory of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria. And I am sure a bunch more. So no, president's have skillfully eluded the act of war, but it has not in near 80 years since, gone to war. And remember, who killed the Suleimani? Who likes launching cruise missiles? There will be a time that someone is willing to pay the price to stand up against us.

Shall I go on?

[BigEvil]

Come on, just do it

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[maniacmechanic]

Just reenforces how foolish you are

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

No one wants war & no one want to pay for it, Most Americans had never heard of the Ukraine before this , Let the EU take care of their own backyard

So most Americans are ignorant in geography and world politics? That's not something to be proud of. Plenty of informed people remember what happened with the Crimea Peninsula.

Also the USA receives plenty of money through FMS which I probably need to spell out (FOREIGN MILITARY SALES) and lots of European countries rely on buying military equipment from the US. The US is very pro FMS and frankly I don't care if you don't believe me. You can easily find all the partners the US has sold F-35s, F-16, F-18s, tanks, blah blah blah to. So yeah the US has a vested interest in selling weapons.

Glad to see ignorance of geography and world politics is an accomplishment in this country. Sounds about right for this thread though.

Probably proud of this too huh ? https://www.apmresearchlab.org/10x-adult-literacy

[Nobody]

Scott, I am not upset that trump won. I don't need to protest at all. In fact. I want trump to be the trumpiest trump a trump can be. I want him to put tariffs on everyone, I want him to deport all the people he sees fit. I want him to do all the things he said he would do. I want trump to everything in his greedy little heart. Cause he will burn down the US, and he will eventually screw up, screw over or screw sideways something so severe that, because he is the president, he will not be able to recover from.

Personally, I want Jym to give odds on JD Vance pushing through the 25th ammendment to remove trump, so then the Peter Thiel's, Elon Musks and the like will have a direct line to the White House, so all the tech bros can screw up this country further

So, tru.p can do all he wants. It shouldn't effect me that much, and in 4 years after trump tanks the economy, destroys the infrastructure, and bungles up everything, a democrat will come and fix it, like they do every time and I will just say, I told you so.

[Pyrate Jim]

Didn't I hear that same song 8 years ago? It's not getting any better with age.

[Nobody]

Didn't I hear that same song 8 years ago? It's not getting any better with age.

No, you didn't. Trump came into a booming economy, then while a global pandemic hit, he did almost nothing to put into place safeguards, act ahead of what the experts said, and went from one bungling to another. And again, trump is coming into a booming economy, as Biden had did the miracle soft landing, adverting a recession, inflation is at normal levels, and now trump wants another tariff war, after the last one cost him 28billion to bail out the farmers.

In other words, if you don't learn from the past, you are doomed to repeat it.

And, Vance will pull the 25th ammendment over on trump to assume the presidency. Show me I am wrong from the person who literally said trump was America's hitler.

[Loguzzzzzz]

Booming Economy? Where?

Delusional much?
SMH

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

Booming Economy? Where?

Delusional much?
SMH

He's referencing when Donald Trump TOOK office in 2017. Try and keep up.

While I won't claim it was booming, GDP was up and inflation was down when he took office.

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-m...mestic-product
https://www.usinflationcalculator.co...flation-rates/

It was so great he even tweeted about it.
https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status...n-donald-trump

I really would love to embed the tweet/X post(?) but this forum is old. Really looking forward to whatever you're gonna say after that given that your savior to America said it.

I guess Donald is delusional too. You guys do a fantastic job I swear, it's pretty comical.

Next thing I'm going to hear in this thread is how giving two guys the same job for a Department of Government Efficiency is efficient. That won't lead to any confusion at all. In fact companies routinely promote two CEOs at the same time to improve the leadership of a company.