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    Official Data Thread

    Deep Blue,

    By request I have added this thread to hold the data that is discussed in various threads here in Deep Blue. It is NOT for posting so please don't force me to delete them.

    If you think something is appropriate for entry here please post the request in a separate thread for everyone's consideration.

    Thanks

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    This data graph shows the air pressure buildup behind the ball in a Dark Angel. The solid line represents pressure, the dotted line is a sensor at the end of the barrel and detects when the ball leaves.

    AGD



    Could not find this pic AGD 10-11-06
    Could not find this pic Bunny 05-28-17
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    I decided to put up more data since you guys are having fun with it. Behold the mighty Angel.

    AGD



    Could not find this pic Bunny 05-28-17
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    The beloved Cocker.



    Could not find this pic Bunny 05-28-17
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    The "buy it becuase it's low pressure" Impulse. Looks about the same to me...

    Not sure if this was calibrated before testing, I seem to remember the peak pressure being around 60 psi.



    http://www.spectrashift.com/AGD_DATA/blast04p.png

    Could not find this pic Bunny 05-28-17
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    Ah the Matrix, the only marker that would waist time holding the bolt closed after the ball left...



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    And last but not least our very own Emag. (pre level 10)



    Could not find this pic Bunny 05-28-17
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    general description of the ball in flight photos.

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    https://www.automags.org/~tomagd/1%20spindata/101.JPG (Broke Link, Leave as Breadcrumb.) - Bunny
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    Here are the very high res tiff files of the photos. They are about 4 megs each use a cable modem. Go hear and download the whole subdirectory. DO NOT POST these files for discussion in the threads!! Use theme for examination only!! Use the JPG's below for posting.


    [URL=https://www.automags.org/~tomagd/1%20spindata/[/URL]

    AGD
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    https://www.automags.org/~TomAGD/1%20.../114-3d_lg.jpg
    3D interpretation of ball position in flight path. Upper right circle represents impact points, other circles denote postions in flight measureed in strobe shots. These are cad drawings to scale of the shooting range and strobe positions. If I remember right the shooting distance was 60 ft.

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    https://www.automags.org/~tomagd/1%20...114side_lg.jpg
    Side view of same

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    https://www.automags.org/~tomagd/1%20...114axis_lg.jpg
    On axis view of ball flight.

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    THE TIFF FILES FOR THE PAINTBALL SPIN PICS CAN BE FOUND HERE:

    spin data
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGD View Post
    THE TIFF FILES FOR THE PAINTBALL SPIN PICS CAN BE FOUND HERE:

    spin data
    Anybody know where this file can be found?

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    Possible to fix the links or possibly provide me with the source files?


    I <3 Data

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    ^^^^^^ I would also add to this chorus.

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    Necropost. I have a bunch of these pictures. Back in 2002, TK had to compress most of the pictures. I will try to reupload with a better resolution. Check the first page for a few updates.

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    Recharge rates for RT valve and popular tournament markers here.

    Recharge rates

    Bunny: Check the file name to determine type of marker

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    RT recharge rate, graph spans one second.



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    popular tournament gun vert reg, graph spans one second.



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    RT runaway mode two shots, graph covers one second.



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    Angel, NOTE graph spans 10 seconds.



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    Angel in rapid fire, one second.



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    Have Blue Data

    Could not find pic AGD 10-11-06
    Could not find pic Bunny 05-28-17
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    what type of camera was used for these photos?

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    Any 35 MM camer will work.

    However you need a setup designed by Egerton Strobe.

    You leave the shutter open in a dark room.
    Than you hook a strobe up to a sound relay with a delay.
    When the gun is fired the strobe fires on a delay and catchs the ball in midair. The flash puts it to film.

    Thats how Im guessing they did it.
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    Thumbs up

    i'll have to try it.

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    Exclamation

    Some of the images are not viewable.

    Have you done the same tests on AKA markers, Shockers (new and old), et cetera?

    This data thread is a brilliant idea. More information is always more fun.

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    Interesting images...although there are a number of broken links/removed files. Here's my question:

    What gun was used for the ball in flight test photos? More importantly, what caliber was the barrel, and what type of paint was that?

    Can you explain how you created the photo setup? I have no experience at analyzing photographs, but it looks like it's a single image created by exposing the film at millisecond intervals. However, at was distance was the camera from the path of the ball, and the barrel? What was the positioning of the mirror in relation to the path of the ball, and at what inclination? I see the markings remaining the same for the ball in the top image seen by the camera, but, the reflected images appear to show rotation. I'm not sure whether I'm seeing a rotation of the ball or the result of different camera angles as it flies past. It looks like the image is showing the ball rotating slowly clockwise along the barrel's lengthwise axis. Is there any chance of more photos from the same test? I wish I had found AO sooner, as all of this is ancient history, but it is quite an incredible read. Thank you for doing these tests and posting your results to us here.
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