Is Pro Team Preventing the Release of the hAIr?

[Magglerock]

On some other forums (PBN, some cocker forums), a guy claiming to be a egineer for Pro Team Products has been posting vid of a hAIr-like pneumo-assist trigger for 'cockers. He says it can be applied to many different markers and will be for the Mag after the cocker version is released. He has said that the technology has been around since 2000, and that PTP just got a patent for it. Does this mean the hAIr will not be released?

[teufelhunden]

That guy is RRFireblade, he posts here. I don't know about the legalities of his frame vs the DW frame.. but Jay did say that there areother versions of the frame in the works, probably including one for the 'Mag. So, even if the hAir doesn't/can't be released because of it, there will still be a frame for 'Mags.

[Chronobreak]

but will the ptp frame be on par or better? and pneu guns have been arund for awhile just seems ptp got the patent for them.(seems they were rushed by seeing the interest of the hair)

and not sure yet but it is a possibilty it wont be released...

[LudavicoSoldier]

And so it begins....mwahahahaha!

[Automaggot68]

On some other forums (PBN, some cocker forums), a guy claiming to be a egineer for Pro Team Products has been posting vid of a hAIr-like pneumo-assist trigger for 'cockers. He says it can be applied to many different markers and will be for the Mag after the cocker version is released. He has said that the technology has been around since 2000, and that PTP just got a patent for it. Does this mean the hAIr will not be released?

Hey, guess what, he DOES work for Pro Team Products.
Thats Jay, and he's known as RRfireblade here on AO. He's a standup guy, and designs products for PTP.
As for whether or not the hAir will not be released Because of that, no one can be sure that it'll be the same design as the hAir. I really dont think it's going to stiffle the progress of the hair.
if it does, we'll just have to see what happens.

[teufelhunden]

but will the ptp frame be on par or better? and pneu guns have been arund for awhile just seems ptp got the patent for them.(seems they were rushed by seeing the interest of the hair)

seen the video? Looks just as impressive as the hAir, except in video quality

As for being rushed, Jay said this has been in the works for -5- years. Legalities apparently took up a lot of that time.

Maggot, it'd have to be of similiar design to be stifling the legal progess of the hAir..

[Vash-HT]

If both frames are pneumatically assissted theres a good bet theyre similar, plus we don't know how broad the patent is, it could end up covering it even if theyre not exactly the same design.

[Chronobreak]

yes i saw the 8 second vid....not so impressive to me i guess...i need MORE.

and i wonder if the ptp version has a special 3 way too or if they have another means of doing it if so it it adjustable and reliable?

[Automaggot68]

yes i saw the 8 second vid....not so impressive to me i guess...i need MORE.

and i wonder if the ptp version has a special 3 way too or if they have another means of doing it if so it it adjustable and reliable?

Yeah, because a mech cocker firing that fast isn't impressive.

[Rift]

anyone got alink to this vid?

[Furby]

http://www.68caliber.com/news/industry/story04446.php

Ouch time....

[LaW]

Ok guys... does it really matter whom eventually ends up releasing it as long as it just gets released? The only thing that would be nice is if DW version is able to be produced AGD might be able to sell it easier on new markers as supposed to pro teams you would just have to purchase as an add-on only or on their markers. But come on, lets just support the development of the new products, all people do is start getting into a frenzy over stuff that is outside of their control.

[Enos Shenk]

Im sure it matters very much to nicad or anyone else whos had someone with more money and more machines and more distribution come along and steal your thunder.

Im admittedly not a patent genius or anything, but as i understand it, the claims are the big part. Read the claims, bunch of ideas for magnetic stuff, and nothing about pneumatics, even though the cocker pneumatic system is described in the description.

Also note the filing date almost 2 years after what that PTP dude was claiming.

[LaW]

Im sure it matters very much to nicad or anyone else whos had someone with more money and more machines and more distribution come along and steal your thunder.

Im admittedly not a patent genius or anything, but as i understand it, the claims are the big part. Read the claims, bunch of ideas for magnetic stuff, and nothing about pneumatics, even though the cocker pneumatic system is described in the description.

Also note the filing date almost 2 years after what that PTP dude was claiming.

Doesnt matter to me... Things will be worked out eventually and some product will be released and both look fine to me. Besides the people involved why does everyone else have to step in, take sides and care so much? Not to mention that most people including me dont have enough details to even take a side... must be well informed in my opinion

[jamescell]

I think they should just show us how to make one for ourselves That way we wouldn't have to wait