Tom, and agd and their crack team of designers, what can we do a? e-mag hybrid bounce

[magman007]

Tom, in lieu of the new Nppl ruling about the No trigger bounce at all allowed, I am quite worried about the trigger bounce(sweet spotting) that is almost inevitable in hybrid mode on e-mags. I am sure you are worried about this as well. AS the rule states, if the ref can bounce your trigger, your marker will not be allowed on the field.

Now, people are going to tell me to cut my trigger rod etc... Well, you see, to stay legal, we need to chrono correctly, and with the e-mag, we need to fire and chrono in manual, to get a correct reading. This is for our safty, as well as our opponets on the other team.

I personally cannot bounce my trigger in hybrid, but i am not so sure about another ref being able to accomplish it. I have never been concerned with it, and always thought it as cheating, but i am worried. My pride and joy, the money i have put into this, i diserve to use it. IM asking, is there away,or are you working on a way to lock hybrid mode out? one that can be changed with tools olny? THank you for your time. - Bill"magman0007" Badnaruk

[Hexis]

Couldn't it be solved by a selector switch that was only adjustable with a tool?

[Mossman]

Ya, sorta, but then you couldn't use manual which is a turn off. Hrm hrm hrm.....

Bill, where in your pull does the hal set the marker off? In tinkering with my gun, i found that if you have it shoot really close to the beginning, infront of the trigger rod, its tougher to get it bounce in hybrid.

A relatively simple, yet extremely scary and unpretty way of getting the job done would be for you to tap a very small hole for a set screw in your frame. I think the best place for it would be inbetween your trigger hinge pin, and the selector switch screw. You could chrony in manual, then screw in the little set screw, and you wouldn't be able to move the switch. If your electronics go down or your battery dies you're screwed for that game, but you can take the set screw out and play in manual the rest of the day.

Personally I'd wait for this to become a problem before i worried so much about it. Chances are someone else will get their gun called illegal before you, and he'll whine about it here, and then we can all collectively work out a fix

[FooTemps]

Electronic tournament lock!!!

[cledford]

Doesn't cutting trigger rods and doing away with Hybred (manual if the battery dies) ruin the genious behind the whole idea of being able to flick a switch and keep shooting if your electronics crap out?

Personally, the only Emags I see that bounce in hybred were messed with to begin with. Same goes for E mode (I've seen it bounce also) so why not adjust the trigger rod to correct length and not worry about it?

You know it's funny how it seems like there is a witch hunt for AGD guns anyhow. Especially since Jim Drew DESIGNED his board to make it easier to bounce (I don't care what he says) and yet he is getting invited to "select" meetings on the issue of trigger bounce. Kinda funny, huh?

-Calvin

[AGD]

Bouncers,

Please do not worry at all about this. We can eliminate the bounce simply by going back to the standard on/off pin that is the same size all the way down. You still get the fast recharge but no bounce. Don't sweat it we are on it.

AGD

[jah871]

Originally posted by AGD
Bouncers,

Please do not worry at all about this. We can eliminate the bounce simply by going back to the standard on/off pin that is the same size all the way down. You still get the fast recharge but no bounce. Don't sweat it we are on it.

AGD

what about for a micro emag? what size pin should i got to if im getting bounce?

[Kevmaster]

the micro emag on-off pin is crap. thats one of the things i hated. AGD spends time to make lazer cut on-off pins for their markers, because tolerances need to be to the thousandth of an inch, and what does PTP do to get the mciro E to work...they take a file to the on-off pin. Prolly AGD will make a new one and youll have to file, file, file

[cphilip]

Originally posted by jah871


what about for a micro emag? what size pin should i got to if im getting bounce?

I will have to do some work on that myself. I currently have one I need to check out and I will let you know. You could measure yours and then try about .05 - .10 longer and work from there. I gonna have to get some time and experiment with that on my E Micro though.

[Hexis]

You guys are missing the point of what TK said. It's not the length that matters, it's the diameter on the top. Reduce that and the "RT" effect goes away. Yet it still maintains the nice uber fast recharge.

[cphilip]

Yes good point... that is a part of it all.

[Temo Vryce]

Can someone please point me to the NPPL rules that state that Tirgger Bounce is not allowed? THanks in advance.

[athomas]

Wouldn't increasing the diameter of the pin at the base increase the amount of trigger pull force as well?

[magman007]

it was a big thread on pbn, il see if ican find it again, it was the same one they busted on the kids for. Tom, i will be contacting you guys to get a normal pin for the time being. Thanks for the help!

[IcantBelieveit]

5.21. The definition of a trigger is the movable lever or button that comes in contact with the finger. The contacts of a switch will not be considered to be a trigger. A trigger pull requires an exertion of force by the finger on the trigger and a release of force by the finger on the trigger during every firing cycle. Markers may fire at any rate of fire, and may shoot any number of paintballs, provided that it fires in semi auto or pump mode only, which means that no more than one paintball is discharged during each firing cycle.