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  • baddy1121
    Registered User
    • Dec 2001
    • 3

    #1

    welts

    why is there a circle in the middle of the welt that doesn't get a bruise
  • thlibo
    Captain: Project Mayhem
    • Nov 2001
    • 420

    #2
    simple physics my good man. Think of it this way:
    The first part of the ball that hits you is the rounded, so it caves in immediately, it has nothing but soft squishy paint behind it. On the other hand a fraction of a second later the outer part hits the skin, and it has shell behind it instead of paint. So the middle part hits like a water ballon, while the outer part hits with more shell so it has less 'give' to it.

    Another factor (and this is speculation) could be that the shell on the outside when it busts is going to be sharper than in the middle area (you have shell hitting the skin perpedicularly instead of parallel) so it will break more blood vessels under the skin, which is what a bruise is, but I am not sure about that.

    Just my thoughts on the question.
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    • AGD
      The man from AGD

      • Oct 2000
      • 5916

      #3
      Excellent observation, good question, a little more complicated answer.

      The front part of the ball hits you and starts to deform. As it flattens out against your skin (you can see this by pushing it into a table with your thumb) eventually it creates a very tight radius at the edge of the flattened part. At this point of high radius the shell fractures and you now have a paintball full of paint that is acting as a cookie cutter and giving you a ring welt.

      Our plastic paintballs are much stiffer but flex very little so they don't flex enough to cause the "ring" in the welt. They just shatter like a potato chip and cause less bruising.

      AGD
      Last edited by AGD; 12-14-2001, 04:49 PM.
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      • baddy1121
        Registered User
        • Dec 2001
        • 3

        #4
        thanks for all your help

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        • thlibo
          Captain: Project Mayhem
          • Nov 2001
          • 420

          #5
          Welcome. I guess I have enough experience with them to be an expert on welts :)
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          • hitech
            Not a shedder of vortices
            • Nov 2001
            • 4775

            #6
            Originally posted by AGD
            Our plastic paintballs...
            Tom,
            I remember you telling me about those plastic paintballs at a tournament about a 100 years ago. Were you ever able to market them?


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            • AGD
              The man from AGD

              • Oct 2000
              • 5916

              #7
              We are making the plastic balls two shifts a day. They are all going for police and military.

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              • hitech
                Not a shedder of vortices
                • Nov 2001
                • 4775

                #8
                I take it that you haven't been able to gain any kind of acceptance at paintball fields? It seemed to me that you had a superior idea and I for one would like to shoot them. What would it take?


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                • Gunga
                  Former AGD Factory Tech
                  • May 2001
                  • 1497

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hitech
                  I take it that you haven't been able to gain any kind of acceptance at paintball fields? It seemed to me that you had a superior idea and I for one would like to shoot them. What would it take?
                  It'd take lots and lots of $$. :) The Perfect Circle paintballs are very expensive. Not lots of volume in comparison to regular paintballs. So low volume = higher prices.

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                  • hitech
                    Not a shedder of vortices
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 4775

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gunga


                    It'd take lots and lots of $$. :) The Perfect Circle paintballs are very expensive. Not lots of volume in comparison to regular paintballs. So low volume = higher prices.
                    Marketing, I always forget marketing. It just seems to me that they are a superior product and "should" out sell lessor products. If only it worked that way...


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                    • Shaft
                      Big Mean Ugly Ogre
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 797

                      #11
                      I wonder how fields would feel about having to deal with sweeping plastic shells.

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                      • oldman
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 3

                        #12
                        Plastic paintballs....have you tried putting dimples in them like golf balls? And how did they work?

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                        • PRO_Ski101

                          #13
                          plastic?

                          why plastic?what does it do?also,any chance of putting them on the online store?

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                          • MAGS own YOU
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                            • Oct 2001
                            • 696

                            #14
                            I got capped of the break today and it didnt pop. When I checked the welt tonight, there was the little white part, then the pink ring around it, then there was another pink ring around it. How did this happen? I didn't get shot 2 times in the same spot.
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                            • Dubstar112
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                              • Feb 2001
                              • 2321

                              #15
                              off topic.. well kind of..

                              Last night on the discovery channel at about 4 in the morning they were showing law enforcment thingys like tazers and paintball pepper balls.. they showed an up close shot of a pepper ball :)
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                              Good to know that somone of Tom's status seeks "relief" from a sport he helped create. A sport now ruled by a single patent.

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