Yep they called me the other day and I have thus sent my Mag in to be brought up to speed. And to your question, yes I live in IL. Less than 3 miles from the address listed on AGD's website to be exact. Shipping was stupid cheap ;-)
Yep they called me the other day and I have thus sent my Mag in to be brought up to speed. And to your question, yes I live in IL. Less than 3 miles from the address listed on AGD's website to be exact. Shipping was stupid cheap ;-)
Rock'n out with my mag out
honestly thought it was common knowledge at this point that AGD was basically a garage shop, low overhead, service and parts company more than an in house gun manufacturing and development company.
i am often accused of 'throwing grenades' into threads, but really, this should be common knowledge among automag shooters. i assumed it was.
then its funny that everyone thinks for some reason i bring this up as an insult, or as a bad thing. when i'd prefer more of the old school gun companies had done the same thing. then parts and service for these great classic guns wouldn't be as hard to get, and they would be more like automags in that way.
"because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"
You would think, but there are people in this thread that claim to know more about the subject then us that are claiming otherwise.
Its annoying because it gets my hopes up.
I would love to see a collaboration from Tuna, AGD, and Luke for a turnkey production pneumag marker using brand new parts. Branded and warranteed by AGD, available in a cool color pallet. Preferably with a macrolineless gas through frame and a hidden in frame LPR. And while we're at it, let it have a new body with ergonomics rivaling a modern speedball marker, with complex cosmetic milling turned out on a 5 axis mill.
So unless that's in the works, can we just admit that AGD is run out of someone's garage that has all the AGD new old stock and wont be making any new stock ever again and that Tom Kaye is not actually Santa Claus?
Last edited by boo; 11-16-2015 at 01:25 PM.
i dont think just because they are probably not going to make a pnumag of your dreams doesn't mean that AGD is only around because of NOS. besides, there are legal issues with making a production pnue gun. just because the company isn't making new style and technology production guns, doesn't mean they are not actively sourcing new parts, and replacing stock to keep these guns running, or taking repairs, servicing rental guns etc. i believe you can order brand new automags from them as well, they just make them one at a time and ship them out as needed.
Last edited by cockerpunk; 11-16-2015 at 01:52 PM.
i think its an in group/out group social phenomena, as i've been told in this thread that i should have died in a terrorist attack, and that is considered ok, but the suggestion that AGD is a garage shop company is a bannable offense.
just depends on who says these things, not what is being said.
I was saying this more in jest since Tuna got really defensive when it was claimed that AGD was a garage company, although I'd love to see a new marker from them.
Its not like PTP is doing all that well, I'm sure they'd give up the pneumag patent for a very affordable price. At least I know I wont get **** here for claiming PTP is not what it used to be, lol.
I shot an email to Roman asking about availability because I do want to get a ULE mag for spring.
I'm still not convinced they are making new parts, I mean it is totally feasible they have 30 years of inventory to keep them going until we're all too old to care. When they were in their glory days I always assumed they did machining in house, is that not the case? Interesting historical question.
Yes, I realize its not my business, but as someone who owns a few mags it would be nice to know what to hoard and what to buy when needed.
Last edited by boo; 11-16-2015 at 02:01 PM.
Yes. Pretty sure it was almost all outsourced. I'm sure he has a small cnc mill and lathe for prototyping. But quite sure the main production was all outsourced.
didn't he say he has an 11 axis lathe?
right, its unlikely that much investment at AGD was in machines to actually make parts. the early guns used SS, which was ground, the body was brazed/soldered, and the frame was glass/plastic molded. so until the jump to ULE stuff relatively late in the game for AGD, most of that stuff would not have been made in house. and even once they did go aluminium, its unlikely that AGD owned machines and equipment made the actual parts. it just wouldn't be economical. the Xmag bodies i do believe were made in house on the machine in simons AGD europe video.
which is why it was probably so easy to transition into garage shop model. you don't have a bunch of liability and capital tied up in machines and facilities. so easy to basically downsize the operation with the taper in demand for guns and parts. if you need more of something, small batches, to keep the parts inventory up and available. make the odd gun order out of those parts etc etc.
Last edited by cockerpunk; 11-16-2015 at 04:35 PM.
so what about this post was warranting of being told i should have died in a terrorist attack?
no seriously, tell me exactly why i was threatened with being banned for that post and viciously attacked by many members including big evil telling me i should be DEAD at the hands of terrorists, and no one thinks that is strange, punishable, and/or simply makes him a pretty awful person. or that nobody follows me around everywhere and flames me everywhere he possibly can.
and im the bad guy whos always causing trouble on AO? bull****.
nothing i said was factually wrong, nothing i said was rude, insulting, or an attack on anyone or anything. but im the *******.
Nick - Cockerpuke is pretty much the reason Simon's forum is dead. At least here we can make fun of him.
Im sorry to hear that you gave Charlie Sheen the HIV+
Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
AGD is officially still a company, though it exists in a few boxes of parts in Romans (?) garage now.
Actually, EVERYTHING you said is wrong. Listen closely young man and learn not to insult someones business model or their intelligence.
1-AGD is actually AGD USA INC.
2-Roman is a former employee of AGD and has NOTHING to do with AGD USA. The owner's name is DAVE not Roman.
3-It is not run out of boxes. The shop is immaculate. Dave is the second smartest man I have ever met. You know who the first one is and it is not you. You honestly have no idea.
4-It is not run out of a garage. They do not have a retail shop so you can't go visit unless you are special...same way as I run my business.
5-They have plenty of new parts and more being made all the time.
6-They still make guns. They still sell guns. They still make parts. They still sell parts.
Is there anything else you need to know or be corrected on?
Its confusing because Dave is the one running the place, but the email on the web page says roman@agd. Anyways Dave did respond pretty quickly
Which is good because I like purple, he quoted a price for a complete marker as well. Hopefully I can order one next month.xvalves -Only black.
I have a couple Purple ULE bodies left.
Well, some reputable member here want to contact [email protected] (actually Dave even though it says Roman) and set up a group buy for a skittles bag of x valves? Or at least see what the buyin would need to be?
I've looked in to all kinds of one off color parts in the past. It's almost always been 100 bucks on top of single unit ano cost. And then the wait for the next product run to have a bare part to begin with. Almost anyone with a small business runs on the concept of money talks.