Why no shorter aftermarket bodies?

[OPBN]

I understand the concept of wanting the new bodies/rails to be compatible with E lowers, thus broadening your market but why isn't anyone making AM/MM length bodies/rails??? Is there really not much of a market for them anymore? Seems like the only option is the MM2K9 or paying $500+ for a Dallara set. I like the looks of some of the Venomous design combos, but honestly hate the look of most of them with mech lowers due to them being longer to accomodate E-lowers.

[leloup]

RPG bodies? I have one that I would sell if you are interested...

[OPBN]

Wanting to see some more elaborate type bodies, not cut down Ules.

[Xmagterror]

I understand the concept of wanting the new bodies/rails to be compatible with E lowers, thus broadening your market but why isn't anyone making AM/MM length bodies/rails??? Is there really not much of a market for them anymore? Seems like the only option is the MM2K9 or paying $500+ for a Dallara set. I like the looks of some of the Venomous design combos, but honestly hate the look of most of them with mech lowers.

Do a search for XT customs. We have been making them for 4 years now. only catch is you need to use a RT Pro sear with our rails. We are the makers of the Ripper, Phoenix, and soon to be re-released shockwave unibody.

[OPBN]

Do a search for XT customs. We have been making them for 4 years now. only catch is you need to use a RT Pro sear with our rails. We are the makers of the Ripper, Phoenix, and soon to be re-released shockwave unibody.

All of which are Emag length....

[Mongoose]

We have a few designs in the works.....just need to catch up with everything we have already released.

We will be releasing many new Mag products in 2011

[OPBN]

We have a few designs in the works.....just need to catch up with everything we have already released.

We will be releasing many new Mag products in 2011

But will they be AM/MM length? Seems like with the Pneu ready frames and VER frames out that someone would start making the shorter length bodies/rails. I hate the gap between the frame and front grip when using mech frames on Emag length uppers. I realize you offer a front grip for your setups, but I would still like to see that shorter ones available.

I'm in line for a MMK2K9, but honestly, the only reason I bought it was I couldnt find anything out there that was the shorter length unless I wanted to invest $500 in a raw Dallara set. I would think if someone would offer a nice AM/MM length body and rail set in the $250-350 range, they would sell.

Anyone elses thoughts?

[splat15k]

Anyone elses thoughts?

I agree with the points you've made; I have always preferred the AM/MM platform over the RT length stuff.

But will they be AM/MM length?

According to previous posts, Mongoose does indeed plan on doing some AM/MM length products in the future...much to the dismay of my wallet.

[RogueFactor]

... I couldnt find anything out there that was the shorter length unless I wanted to invest $500 in a raw Dallara set.

Anyone elses thoughts?

The Chord v2 was AM/MM length and looked good with the stock AGD AM/MM rail.

[OPBN]

The Chord v2 was AM/MM length and looked good with the stock AGD AM/MM rail.

Agreed. I forgot about that one. I am not worried so much about them fitting the stock rail. I am willing to buy a new rail, I just want the shorter design to get rid of the goofy 2 inch gap between the frame and front grip on E length uppers when mech lowers are used.

It makes me wonder to a certain degree if this is the element that has been missing lately from some of the released products. I mean, I would have thought the Magnus frame would have flown off of the shelves and the VER frame would have sold out relatively quickly as well. But it seems like the Magnus frame must not have been as much of a success as they planned since from what I gather another run isn't planned, and the VER frame has only presold like 13 frames so far. Is it because there are no "proper" length platforms to put them on? I mean PTP was able to presell over 100 MM2K9 bodies, and have people willing to wait 3 years for them to get done. Others with E length products don't seem to sell as quickly.

[leloup]

You could make a custom foregrip to solve the problem with the gap between the frame and grip.

[OPBN]

You could make a custom foregrip to solve the problem with the gap between the frame and grip.

I like my mags like I like my women.... short and tight.

[Mongoose]

Yes, we have the RT body/rail designs done....now we are starting to make AM/MM length Products.

We will have designs available soon, both Rails and Bodies

[Mongoose]

Agreed. I forgot about that one. I am not worried so much about them fitting the stock rail. I am willing to buy a new rail, I just want the shorter design to get rid of the goofy 2 inch gap between the frame and front grip on E length uppers when mech lowers are used.

It makes me wonder to a certain degree if this is the element that has been missing lately from some of the released products. I mean, I would have thought the Magnus frame would have flown off of the shelves and the VER frame would have sold out relatively quickly as well. But it seems like the Magnus frame must not have been as much of a success as they planned since from what I gather another run isn't planned, and the VER frame has only presold like 13 frames so far. Is it because there are no "proper" length platforms to put them on? I mean PTP was able to presell over 100 MM2K9 bodies, and have people willing to wait 3 years for them to get done. Others with E length products don't seem to sell as quickly.

Actually, the M90 sold out so fast that a second run was needed.

And i just about sold out on all my RT rail and bodies. When it comes to Automags you cannot make a huge run because your selling to a smaller market. And this is why prices are usually higher.

We have some very interesting stuff coming out, and most of it is AM/MM related.

[OPBN]

Actually, the M90 sold out so fast that a second run was needed.

And i just about sold out on all my RT rail and bodies. When it comes to Automags you cannot make a huge run because your selling to a smaller market. And this is why prices are usually higher.

We have some very interesting stuff coming out, and most of it is AM/MM related.

I was not aware that the M90 sold so quickly, if so, my bad. I thought Tuna still had them on his site, and there's been one for sale in the BST for awhile now. I check your site every so often, and thought you still had a fair amount of bodies and rails available, considering the quantity you started with. Either way, I'm not judging, just wondering why more of the shorter length aren't offered and wondering if more of some of the aftermarket frames wouldn't sell if there was something better to put them on? Looking forward to seeing what you come out with.