Tactical Automag prototype thread. Please help.

[HOMELANDEFENDER]

Hi Rory -- never knew you were in the Military -- I'm thinking National Guard from the looks of the M16A1. BTW -- as you have read, there are many opinions here. IMO, many of them are not so much anti SpecOps, but more along the line of the spirit of invention. To me, improving on a marker to suit ones needs is almost as fun as the sport itself. During my run with N.J.T.A.G. I have come to appreciate the quality of your product line . Ryan introduced me to the SpecOps brand, and your product will always have a place in my gear bag. You get what you pay for.

HLD...

[dIVEANX]

Dont let that pic fool ya. He is just a big teddy bear Besides Miles gear dont count LOL

[FinchMan]

here is a picture of ME PERSONALLY shooting my Q-BOW at the Camp Blanding Scenario game in Florida.

All that camo, and you still got a nice orange nob on your remote line.



anyways, i'm glad to see were finnally playing a little nicer.

I really doubt AGD would go completely under, ever. Even if they downsized to a small shop that only made replacement parts. plus, I'd think the tac-one would be more durable than the ion anyways.

... so make more Longbow mods for more peoples preferences!

[paintball_fiend]

spec ops very well writen bravo
professional and not flaming i say good form

good idea bout offering offsets for the stock that is all tha is needed
maybe you could make the little adapter part for the emag and classic mag to attatch your stock to the regular gun that would be cool and you wouldsell more stocks

[Gunga]

As far as the 6 holes on the RT rail... they are not all aligned straight. It kind of steps out three times. Ths is not to say that a good machinist could not match these steps with an adapter peice, but it makes it tougher.

The RT rail would be nice to use, except for a few reasons: Firstly, we do not know if we can even drill through the back end of the RT rail into the stock adapter peice, for added stability (and looks). We know we CAN with the original style frame.

Also, we know that we can use the front end hole (used for the front grip, gas thru grip and grip extention peice) to build of off. On the RT we have to rely either on the front three screws, or the grip holder peice that is supplied with the RT marker. Bother of which just arent as easy as using the already usable hole in the front of the original frame.

You can drill holes in the back of a RT Pro rail. On the original RT's I wouldn't as there are 2 air passages that run lengthwise through the rear portion of the rail (to feed the 6 side mounted air accessory ports). You could drill holes through the back of an E-Mag rail as well, however as the rear portion of it is angled, you'd need some sort of adapter plate to connect the 'base' version of your RT Pro stock (in whatever form it takes) to an E-Mag.

In addition to the 6 holes for mounting the (formerly) stock foregrip, the front portion of the RT Pro (and E-Mag) rail has a vertical hole for mounting a foregrip just like the Auto/MiniMags do. So I'd suggest planning on utilizing the vertical hole rather than the 6 screw holes at the front of the RT Pro rail so that your setup will work on both an RT Pro and an E-Mag.

As for the warp question, you are looking at carrying 3-4 9V batteries, 2 in the loader and 1-2 in the warp. You have 2 separate and distinct motors running, so there is a good bit of noise

You're not going to hear the sound of the Warp functioning over the sound of your gun firing. Personally, I put 2 batteries inside my Warps. The fit is snug, so there's very little (if any) rattling of batteries. If there is, it's not enough for me to notice.

[LONEWOLFOO1]

spec ops1 i just wanted to know how in the hell you get the silver tabs off on the tac one i am making a q bow for myself and how is progress with the offset stock adapter.

[LONEWOLFOO1]

OK guys i finally got the longbow and with my jt mask on its very tight the picture i posted should be the reccomened height of the lobgbow.

beleive me spec ops i tried to hold it against me but the stock is to short and with it mounted correctly it very uncomfortable i need a bracket made to put the stock lower. so this is coming from the guys that kicked out 300 for this kit.

maybe with a v force mask it be better on the head but why should i i like jt products better

[famousgamer]

I can not say I am suprised in the least.

First off, that marker is gonna slay. That Longbow kit does look excellent, and it is gonna rip. It is interesting how you hinged the stock on the lower screw. Does it hold into place like that?

You are right on about the "plates" that can be used to lower the stock, and extend it for taller people. Those plates would be so easy to make, and I hope you can get a machinist to make you some Lonewolf.

I am really interesting in seeing pictures of you with that stock shouldered! See if you can get a friend to take some pics, if it is not too much trouble.

Thanks Lonewolf for posting your findings here, with an un-biased perspective. If anyone can machine, or knows information on getting those "plates" machined, please contribute that info here. Thanks.

[LONEWOLFOO1]

no it swings back and forth but i wouldlike it lowered one inch and pushed back on inch i bought a dye mask and they do make a difference but that would be a addition cost to the end user when i shoulder it i have to bent my head to look down the sight. i could shoulder it higher but why have the stock there.

if i was to put the shoulder stock on my shoulder where it is suppose to be i will really have to bend my head to look down the barrel i will be messing with it for a couple of weeks and look for a machine person hopefully to make me a part.

[ultralight]

that crossman stock looks like it may actually fit as a replacement for the grips on a cf single trigger frame.

[psychowarden]

It looks good man. I have never done a scenario, but Im dying to try one with my Minimag some day. Im excited to see what it looks like with the Longbow kit.

[LONEWOLFOO1]

I am surprise that spec ops one didn't chime in to give his opnion on the matter.

[famousgamer]

When it comes too a product that takes minimal effort to produce (like the stock plates) and provides maximum and much-needed satisfaction, its a no-brainer to me.

I have a very strong feeling that the Longbow and its family of products are going to be ignored, not improved, as the new Black Cell will be taking the limelight. Dont forget about the Longbow owners please Spec Ops!

[Coralis]

If you got a couple of strips of sheet metal you use those until you got something custom milled. Something about an inch wide (just guessing from the picture) just drill the holes to match up the three holes (with the stock in the postion you want) and then paint it black so it doesnt look so bad (again this temporary)

[LONEWOLFOO1]

I think even the black cell would have the same issues i was wondering if a m4 stock would fit back there. that would elimnate the need for a longer plate but you can make a plate just to lower the stock. when i got the longbow kit was not to be a sniper but to elimnate that dam hopper i hated the hopper. so i wanted a stock becuase i play games all day and the tank do get heavy. so in retrospec spec ops gave me what i wanted but i needs a little tinkering. i wonder why they didn't make a black cell line for the automags not everybody wants to be a sniper.

did you guys see the sppl woodsball tournment? the longbow needs to be more flexiable. i guess i need more of a rifle man setup