finally finished my homemade e-mag conversion...

[the electrician]

spleefstylez- the ram is a modified valve actuator. clippard part# MPA-3

the manifold I handmade to conform to the actuator and the valve.

rkjunior303-
the magnet in the trigger does not operate the solenoid valve. it just takes the place of a trigger return spring.
a micro switch triggers the morlock to energize the solenoid valve.

[rkjunior303]

ha i was way off.. either way, its a cool design awesome marker man!

[Digits]

So is the morlock board that other board for the e-mag?

Do you think a WAS board would work for this?

I can imagine it now baby.. A WAS'd mag.. I might be ordering an intelliframe now and doing this now.. Thanks alot!! :P..

No but really, this is the sweetest thing i've ever seen, probablly because it's exactly what I want to do, but I would never now how to come out about it..

I still don't 100% understand how it works though.. Does the air somehow push the sear, or is it directly connected to the valve in some way??

[dudedude]

nice work!

Gotta repeat what everyone else has been saying, great job on putting the entire assembly together. Looks really professional.

I'm itching to do the same to my mag, so would you mind if I ask a few (possibly dumb) questions?
1. How is the actuator set up? I'm assuming you picked it because most rams are a bit too long, but the clippard part is just a hollow tube with a threaded opening.
2. Also, I've researched minivalves before, and the lowest voltage ones usually required 12 volts. Is yours the same? How are you bumping up the voltage?

Digits: I think this is how it works.. The air goes from the rock reg to the 3-way valve, which either shuts off the flow of air or diverts it to the actuator. The actuator acts like a ram and trips the sear. Nothing is connected to the valve. Of course I could be completely wrong, that's just what I gathered from the pic.

[Digits]

So the sear is tripped basically by something like a solenoid in a sear tripper (The piece that goes, click, click, click)..

Or does something else trip the sear..

[the electrician]

thanks again, I'm glad to see people are interested in performance mods. thank you for the nice compliments.

dudedude- professional looking? damn... thanks man! but really it could have definitely been prettier, but most of the time I'm concerned with performance and reliability, then looks are last on the list. actually punisher makes the best looking magmods, and the best looking mods ingeneral. but hey once again, thank you very much.

okay, down to business-

an air pilot valve actuator is the same basic thing as a ram. this particular model is used to actuate a mechanical pushbutton valve by attaching it to the end. the small plunger inside pushes the valves push button when air is applied to the actuator.

Now for use in this mod, it has to be modified itself. first off, a steel piston was made to push the sear.careful consideration must be made so there is no binding of the supplied delrin plunger in the actuator. the MPA-3 is also shortened as much as possible(shave off the valve mounting threads on the lathe). it is taken down to the internal snap ring. I use the MPA-3 because I am not ready to attempt making my own rams, like punisher does. I'm not that good of a machinist. it is an easy way to get a short 3/8" bore cylinder(ram, actuator...samething) with a simple available spring return, and easyily adapted to this project.

you've researched minivalves? good! excellent! too many people want everything just given to them and they don't want to do any research. I use a special order 6volt model.
it might be possible to use a 12 volt model, MAYBE IF you are using a rechargeable 9.6 volt battery, charging it up to around 10.8 volts, but room inside the grip is limited, so you can't use a very large firing cap to help keep the voltage high on the battery. you might get it to work just fine, you would only be using 97 milliamps or so, per shot.
OR it might not have the power to move the valve poppet open peoperly, and this could hurt flow, and you might have to increase energize time to make up for it, which inturn, could slow down the cycle rate a little POSSIBLY. remember, this is all hypothetical until you try it and see what happens.

with a 6 volt model, it draws more than twice the current(352 milliamps at 9.8 volts) but it's reaction time is less than 2 msecs and it will shift the poppet with authority, no matter what the input psi. not to mention it will operate even when the battery is drained down past 8 volts. this to me seemed to be the more reliable route to go, and I imagine it will get 40,000 shots per charge(I don't know, I haven't had to charge the battery yet.)

either way contact the manufacturer/distributor of the valve you want to use and ask them about optional voltages.

I've thought about ordering a batch of these valves if enough people are interested.maybe.

Digits- the morlock is a circuit board designed to run any electro gun. it is the smallest, probably the best, most versatile board that could be used for this mod.

http://exarin.com/

there is the link to there website. it is truly a great product.

here's how the mod works:
air from the tank is going into the palmer rock reg that is installed on the front of the vert asa. it regulates it down to about 80 psi and sends it inside the grip to the solenooid valve. when the trigger is pulled, it activates a micro switch which tells the morlock board to energize the solenoid of the solenoid valve, for a certain amount of programmable time. the solenoid opens the valve, which lets air flow through the mini-manifold and into the brass actuator. the actuator has a steel piston which pushes on the sear, where the trigger rod would have normally been connected. this fire the gun. this design enables a large amount of force to be available in a quick amount of time, so as to be able to fire the gun reliably and in a much smaller package than the AGD e-mag. (no offense guys, the e-mag is much cooler looking than my gun)

make sense?

[Digits]

Originally posted by the electrician
thanks again, I'm glad to see people are interested in performance mods. thank you for the nice compliments.

dudedude- professional looking? damn... thanks man! but really it could have definitely been prettier, but most of the time I'm concerned with performance and reliability, then looks are last on the list. actually punisher makes the best looking magmods, and the best looking mods ingeneral. but hey once again, thank you very much.

okay, down to business-

an air pilot valve actuator is the same basic thing as a ram. this particular model is used to actuate a mechanical pushbutton valve by attaching it to the end. the small plunger inside pushes the valves push button when air is applied to the actuator.

Now for use in this mod, it has to be modified itself. first off, a steel piston was made to push the sear.careful consideration must be made so there is no binding of the supplied delrin plunger in the actuator. the MPA-3 is also shortened as much as possible(shave off the valve mounting threads on the lathe). it is taken down to the internal snap ring. I use the MPA-3 because I am not ready to attempt making my own rams, like punisher does. I'm not that good of a machinist. it is an easy way to get a short 3/8" bore cylinder(ram, actuator...samething) with a simple available spring return, and easyily adapted to this project.

you've researched minivalves? good! excellent! too many people want everything just given to them and they don't want to do any research. I use a special order 6volt model.
it might be possible to use a 12 volt model, MAYBE IF you are using a rechargeable 9.6 volt battery, charging it up to around 10.8 volts, but room inside the grip is limited, so you can't use a very large firing cap to help keep the voltage high on the battery. you might get it to work just fine, you would only be using 97 milliamps or so, per shot.
OR it might not have the power to move the valve poppet open peoperly, and this could hurt flow, and you might have to increase energize time to make up for it, which inturn, could slow down the cycle rate a little POSSIBLY. remember, this is all hypothetical until you try it and see what happens.

with a 6 volt model, it draws more than twice the current(352 milliamps at 9.8 volts) but it's reaction time is less than 2 msecs and it will shift the poppet with authority, no matter what the input psi. not to mention it will operate even when the battery is drained down past 8 volts. this to me seemed to be the more reliable route to go, and I imagine it will get 40,000 shots per charge(I don't know, I haven't had to charge the battery yet.)

either way contact the manufacturer/distributor of the valve you want to use and ask them about optional voltages.

I've thought about ordering a batch of these valves if enough people are interested.maybe.

Digits- the morlock is a circuit board designed to run any electro gun. it is the smallest, probably the best, most versatile board that could be used for this mod.

http://exarin.com/

there is the link to there website. it is truly a great product.

here's how the mod works:
air from the tank is going into the palmer rock reg that is installed on the front of the vert asa. it regulates it down to about 80 psi and sends it inside the grip to the solenooid valve. when the trigger is pulled, it activates a micro switch which tells the morlock board to energize the solenoid of the solenoid valve, for a certain amount of programmable time. the solenoid opens the valve, which lets air flow through the mini-manifold and into the brass actuator. the actuator has a steel piston which pushes on the sear, where the trigger rod would have normally been connected. this fire the gun. this design enables a large amount of force to be available in a quick amount of time, so as to be able to fire the gun reliably and in a much smaller package than the AGD e-mag. (no offense guys, the e-mag is much cooler looking than my gun)

make sense?

The explanation was great, I understand it alot better now.. But when I was reading the first part you lost me on partical lol..

So.. This Morlock board.. Do you have to solder thing on for say the battery holder.. And stuff like that.. Or are there slots to just slip them in..

[badtoyz]

Digits go here for a better pick of the morlock

http://www.docsmachine.com/gear/morlock.html

And yes you have to solder every thing

[Digits]

It looks hard as hell to program lol..

As soon as my brother gets his WAS board i'm going to look into that and see how the programming is on it..

[Jack & Coke]

...next step...

eyes!

awesome stuff electrician!

[penguinpunk555]

This wouldn't conflict with the SP pentent would it? You could sell the idea to TK and then be anohter paintball god.

[nicad]

yes it violates SP's electro patent..

[the electrician]

I seriously doubt they would want to sue me for making my own electro-gun. no money to be made there.

that's all they are really interested in.

I'm not interested in making them for people, and the idea is anyones for the taking. anybody can make one for all I care.

hell,name one idea that the boys at smartparts actually came up with themselves. good luck

[nicad]

electrician- was not meant to be directed towards you.. was just answering penguinpunk555's question/assumption..

out!

[Gabriel]

SOOO NICE!!!

That is SERIOUSLY nice. I would love that, even more than that blazer I was thinking about. (Wheels start turning...)