This one I have always been curious about. Now there has been a big buzz about how Crossfire regs have the best flow over any other. They even use a video of an Angel at 11bps F/A with a liquid filled gauge. I think they could do better then that if they really wanted to push the envelope, so I think that one would be good to research.
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Good suggestion!
I bought my crossfire (new reg design) based on it's exceptionally awesome price and having watched that video you mentioned.
I have been very happy with my tank, but it's only a preset.
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In anycase, I'd like to second your request!:)
Sice note: Since my tank is only 800 psi output, I'm not able to get any RT action on my Retro
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I'm actually in the market for a tank and I think it would be great to test that for better references.
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Most manufactures seem to claim the best something on their reg. is there some kind of test that can be done on a tank that could maybe give flow rate and consistency. i would be very interested to see a line up of tanks put through the same test(s).
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Good idea...
Maybe we should start a single thread a single repository for suggested reports to explore doing.
Anyhow, regarding the cross fire test - without even thinking about it for a second, I noticed that you said they used an oil filled gauge. Oil filled gauges are know to be more accurate - but the liquid has a dampening effect on the movements of the needle. That is a little trick that anyone showing flow with an analog gauge will use as the lows don't always appear so low during rapid recharges :)
What we could do is put together a list of test protocols for markers, inline regs, air systems, and what ever else.
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To get the hard data we need. We would need a setup similar to Tom's Gun Dyno. We would have to attach the output of the bottle to a pressure sensor, attached to a computer, and software to graph the results. If we aren't doing this, then it's very hard to come to a factual conclusion about 1 regualtor.
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Brian brings up a very good point. To get the best and most accurate results we need a high quality test bed. Something like Toms gun Dyno is the key. I am unsure of how much the entire unit would cost (seeing as the sensors are upwards of $200 a piece). But Tom, any chance a small group of us could rent time on your dyno for some of these tests?
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If someone did have a test station we could use (If Tom will let us use his) then it would help a LOT as far as proving/disproving mfg's claims.
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We should plan on developing the testing tools ourselves. I'm sure Tom would be willing to provide guidance and advice - but unless he feels otherwise, it might not look cool for him to be loaning out equipment that is used to take closer looks at other manufacturers products. He'll have to weigh in himself on the matter...Comment
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Well, donggie and Butterfingers have dry-fired their emagnum'd emag at 30 bps, so if they adjusted the bps around while using a crossfire tank, they could keep raising it until the sound started to become weaker (record it and check it with some program or another).
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i think someone wrote about a test like this. According to them, to test flow, you set up a buntch of tanks the same size next to eachother and turn the on/off on(as in closed). Next Open all the on/off valves and write down which tank runs out first, sec, and so on. The tank with the highest flow would run out first of coarse, because the air would get out faster. I did not make any tests however and am just repeating what some guy logically said.
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I believe that Have Blue is also working on a regulator dyno. I'm not sure how far along he is on it's construction, but he might also be able to help on this matter.There are three kinds of people in the world: Those who can count, and those who can't.
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We did the e-magnum demo on a wide open scuba tank.
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Actually that is not correct. oil filled gauges are not inherently more accurate than dry gauges they are howeverI noticed that you said they used an oil filled gauge. Oil filled gauges are know to be more accurate
used exactly as you say, to dampen the gauge movement to protect it from damage caused by shock and vibration.
www.winters.ca is one source of gauges and information about gauges.
of note to us are the 1.25" spiral tube gauges.Comment
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holy crap dude no tank can even come close to that. I don't even really think it would be possible to get it that much air.Comment
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