Any of you guys want to fight? Lets have a brawl. Its the endless debate.....

[FalconGuy016]

couldnt different bolts apply the air differently and then effect the paintballs slightly differntly? Im not going for a hueg distance change

[RRfireblade]

I think there's at tad differance between-

A rifle shooting a bullet @4,000 FPS and 40,000 psi chamber pressure.

A paintball gun 280fps and I don't know....300psi chamber pressure (guess)

Jay

[HoppysMag]

i see where you are with it but i just dont think that it makes any diffrance at paintball... cause also dont forget you chronoing( SP?) out of the barrel is including that supposed "Kick" so even if it was true that it drops a small amout while in the barrel doesnt affect the fact that yyou chroney out at the end of the barrel, you see what i mean....

[RRfireblade]

I know. I didn't say I thought it was true,I just thought it was maybe the only logical reason I could muster.(this was supposed to be for fun.)As for the crono, the place we play at has the "red" one and you kinda rest your barrel on the rubber upper part that would "maybe" nullify the "kick" found later in the field.

Jay.

Wait a second......Uh oh.....my flying pig just got out of his cage.....got go catch him.

[HoppysMag]

i actualy chrono holding my gun because of how my tank is... , but whatever...

[petefol]

arent most rifles closed bolt because they are bolt action, or does he mean an auto rifle?

[HoppysMag]

Originally posted by petefol
arent most rifles closed bolt because they are bolt action, or does he mean an auto rifle?

who me? i said "FA rifles" which is full auto, and it depends on what you consider a rifle... an uzi is open bolt but not really a rifle

[robspectre]

Can you guys believe Tom actually replied to this post? Thanks Tom...

Actually Im going to test this this weekend if possible. Im either going to say its an optical illusion or Im actually right. We'll see. It will be fun.

Oh...and the remark earlier about the wizzzzz some markers have.......Ive noticed that. Wonder what causes that?

Oh...and Tom....dont get me wrong. My favorite marker is my Emag. I just have to test this theory myself. I have owned so many cockers in the past and they seem to shoot farther and more accurate. Im going to test this. Now personally I love cockers and I believe them to be excellent markers, although if I had to use my mag or a cocker I would choose my mag.

Anyways....great fight. Im actually suprised so many of you actually came here and agreed/disagreed with me.

Oh...and Tom....dont take this badly. Im not even trying to rag on a mag. I actually choose to use them. I cant count how many mags I have owned. I have registered all of my mags so you can see just how much I love em.

You guys are great here at AO and Ive had lots of fun. But seriously, Isnt conflict kind of fun?

[Ityl]

obviously you guys can't think at all. I said the flatline is an exaggeration. Have you never shot 2 tone paint at a lower velocity. Paintballs spun out of my Bruizer Pro, but you want to neglect spin.

[misfit]

280fps,HOWEVER....the speed of such a launch of "BOLT AND BALL" causes an equal but opposite reaction (physics baby)forcing the gun rearward,if ever so slightly,thereby slowing the PBall just enough to be noticable at somewhere around 100 feet away

the ball will not have slowed down if it is still leaving the barrell at 280

[MinimagRockin']

I'm sure cockers by sheer chance just so happen to put some kind of positive spin on the ball and that makes them shoot noticably farther than any other gun...give me a break.

[Kevmaster]

actually, the idea of a closed bolt being better is there is NO spin. they claim that with the ball already in the barrel and stoped when the air hits it, there is no spin on the ball and therefore its more accurate.

just look at the tests. there is no more range for the shocker which is regarded as the ultimate "long ranger" by most players. angels and bushys shoot just as far...its all hype!

[Ityl]

I never said one specific gun shot farther or more accurate than other. I just said there's no way at 2 guns can shoot exactly the same.

[HoppysMag]

Originally posted by MinimagRockin'
I'm sure cockers by sheer chance just so happen to put some kind of positive spin on the ball and that makes them shoot noticably farther than any other gun...give me a break.

lol im pretty sure EDIT: Positive spin would actualy throw the ball into the ground... back spin would give it range.

I never said one specific gun shot farther or more accurate than other. I just said there's no way at 2 guns can shoot exactly the same

are you saying you dissagree with the laws of physics or you just dont think that in actual real world game play 2 guns will go exactly the same distance? if its the game play one, you could be right, things like air resistance, consistance of velocity, height from fireing point, obviously angle, and irregularitys in the ball will toy with the results... but neglecting air resistance, irregularitys, and firing 2 projectiles from same hight at same speed and same angle will result in the same range.

[hitech]

Okay, I'll bite. What can a marker actually do that will affect the paintball once it leaves the barrel to give it more range at the same fps?