Finished my Pnuematic Trigger Frame...

[phishphen]

2-23-2012
All links updated and alive!!!! yaya

after slowly working on this experiment, i think i am finally done. I went to the field today to try it out and it worked out really well. In my opinion, this gun RIPS! The trigger pull is very light and i can definitely walk it. It was very reliable. There is a little learning curve to the trigger but that is what makes it fun to shoot cuz i will have something to always practice on....i cannot express how fun it is to shoot this gun now, all i can say is....im happy This is the first mod i have ever done to a paintball gun and being able to research AO for ideas on this and then have the final, reliably working, product in my hands is a really good feeling. MUCH THANKS to THE ELECTRICAN for posting his projects on AO!!
heres my phish MAG...




heres a vid of me shootin it.....it was really windy dat day...
dry firing Phish MAG



Tell me what you guys think.....i have a few more vids if you wann me to post

Heres some more pictures:

opposite view
exploded view of actuator
Internal #1
Internal #2

Heres a video of the internals. Please note that the gun is NOT firing, im only trying to show the pnuematic trigger cycling:
Internal Video

Heres another video wit some reballs. This was taken just after i finished the mod, so i was VERY GREEN wit the trigger....
Initial Testing w/ Reballs

OK. Here it is, the parts list:

I AM PROVIDING THIS AS A WAY TO HELP YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND HOW MY FRAME/GUN IS SETUP. THESE PARTS ARE NOT CONCRETE and YOU are the final authority on what parts you will use on your gun...if i forgot any parts i will attach it at the end of this list....

Parts from Clippard and Clippard Price List:
SMAV-3 (1) @ $9.80each OR MSV-1 (1) @$10.00 from FABCO Air
MPA-3 (1) @ $4.65each
11750-2 (1) @ $2.20 per PKG
11755 (1) @ $1.60 per PKG
(optional but recommended)
11752-5 (1) @ $3.45 per PKG
PG-101 (1) @ $12.20each
QEV (optional) @ $4.80each

Parts from your local Hardware Store/Home Depot:
1/4 x 1/2 64 set screw + TAP + Drill Bit (1)
4-40 3/16 set screw + TAP + Drill Bit (lots of them)
6-32 3/16 set screw + TAP + Drill Bit (not as many, but some)
Drill
Dremel + 3/4 cutting wheel (lots of them) + tungsten cutter (1)
epoxy glue

Parts from Palmer-Pursuit/local Paintball store:
Palmers Micro Rock @ $60
QEV (optional if you dont get it from Clippard) @ $8.00
micro-line (lots of it)

Parts That may need to be researched:
(i got these at an Aircraft Hardware Shop, but i think you may be able to get them or somthing similar at Home Depot. These 2 parts are what the piston in the actuator is made up of)
Riv-Nut P/N NAS1329A08-75 @ $1.00
Screw P/N MS24694-S3 @ $.50

Just added:
Consider any parts THE ELECTRICIAN or BOSSMAN might suggest.

02-23-2012
how to document..pdf of Version 2 Phishmag

[Yogster]

The link to the vid didn't work for me.Sounds interesting though.I'll check back later.

[master_alexander]

cool, and you are wearing a mask!

["the FitZ"]

what 3way did you end up using?

[phishphen]

...

the 3-way is a Clippard SMAV-3

[noahyay]

did you take the srping out of the 3-way?

what ram did you use?

where did you place the 3-way and ram?

[phishphen]

did you take the srping out of the 3-way?

what ram did you use?

where did you place the 3-way and ram?

i didn't take the spring out of the 3-way. i need the spring for the trigger return

ram = Clippard MPA-3

3-way is up near the trigger pivot and the ram is underneath

i'll put some detailed pics up of the setup if you want...lmk

[noahyay]

thanks

any milling involved?

[phishphen]

thanks

any milling involved?

yea, milling is required. I needed to make room for the actuator and the 3-way.
I used a Dremel tool to do it all. Actually, all the tools needed were pretty basic. if i needed a specific tool, it didn't cost me more than $10...

[Igotu]

pics please.

[zazzoo]

can u write a step list in making this?

[phishphen]

IGOTU: UP ^

can u write a step list in making this?

i can TRY. Give me bout a week or two...

[Duck Hunt]

Nice job!!! Looks killer man. What kind of LPR are you running on there? your pull looks much shorter, but have you tried getting a set screw in that trigger and seeing how sort you can actually get it??

Keep us posted!!

Sean

[phishphen]

Nice job!!! Looks killer man. What kind of LPR are you running on there? your pull looks much shorter, but have you tried getting a set screw in that trigger and seeing how sort you can actually get it??

Keep us posted!!

Sean

thanks man! the lpr is a Palmer Mini Rock (i am fortunate to live only 15min away from Palmer's store). right now the trigger pull at the bottom of the trigger is 3/32". I have set screws in place to limit the travel. I can get the trigger pull down to 1/16", maybe a LITTLE lower, but i want to ensure Positive venting and pressurization of the actuator, so i leave it at 3/32. I don't know how much force is needed to pull the trigger, but i have compared it to my friends E-bladed Autococker and they feel somewhat similar in "force requirement". So, inother words, trigger pull, to me, is very light...

[Duck Hunt]

Cool! I'm not at my personal computer otherwise I'd do it myself, but you should make a sound clip of you shooting it as fast as you can (practice with it alittle at first since your new to it) and figure out what BPS you're getting.

Terrific job man, evvvvvveryone needs to work on stuff like this for themselves!

Sean