Aftermarket E/X-Mag Boards!!!!!

[p8ntbal4me]

For those that are not aware,.....

Soon to be tested by myself will be a new addtion to the line-up of replacement parts for the AGD community.

BRAND NEW AFTERMARKET E/X-MAG DAUGTHERBOARDS POWERED BY THE UNIVERSAL T-BOARD!!

This is not a Do-It-Yourself product. This board will come just as your existing AGD stock board is,... but with some NEW ENHANCEMENTS!

The new board is actually a "daughter board". Which means that it uses the UTB to do the work, but makes the entire product a TRUE PLUG-N-PLAY!

Universal T-Board Specs:

Modes of Fire: Semi, RT, Burst, Full Auto, CFOA (capped semi), PSP, NXL, and Nitro

Up to 50BPS (limited to the solenoid)
INSTANT ON (no boot-up time,... you apply the power,... its ready to go!)
Tournament Lock
Eye can be disabled on the fly
Supports Open-bolt
Supports Sear tripped, EP valve, and most all other valve systems
1 million trigger pull checks per second
Software debounce
Fully Adjustable Dwell, Debounce, Eye Delay, Ramping Speed, Ramping Activation Speed, After Nitro Mode
Setting to test eyes (Eye Alignment Tool)
Re-programmable Microcontroller

The Daugther Board supports the current industry standard ports (not the ones currently on the stock AGD board). Before you get upset,..... dont worry,... your stock ACE will work with this board! We have eliminated the Molex connectors found on the stock AGD board and bumped the board standard to the JST connectors. If you have an AGD ACE,.. we will offer a new wire harness to be used with the new daughter board. You can ALSO purchase a new ACE board and we can install the new ACE harness as well! There is ALOT of options here!!

The new daughter board will come complete with ALL REQUIRED COMPONENTS!!! Meaning that all you have to do, is remove your old board completely and intact, put it away in a safe place, and install your new board.

The new board will coome with:
A new power cable with all new connectors AND a new removable power lead so you can remove the board and not have to remove the rail!

A new HES port WITH a NEW HES!

A new solenoid port WITH a NEW solenoid pigtail for removal of the solenoid without removal of the board!*

*It has not been decided if the boards will be bundled with new solenoids*

Two new BREAK BEAM/BOUNCE BEAM eye ports for the eye sensor AND the eye LED! You can now add in break beam eyes to the gun if your body is drilled for them! If the eye LED ever fails or you want to change colors,.. you dont have to spend the money on the entire wire setup. Simply un-plug the single bad component and plug in a new one! In the event that you wish to wire an ACE/bounce beam to the gun and not use an actual ACE BOARD,... your all set! No changes are required!

A new Warp Feed connector!

A new Multi-colored LED in place of the current LED screen!

A new "Goodie Port"! (Im not exactly SURE what this is yet,... but I will let you know!)

No more polarization problems with the HES or SOLENOID!

Uses the current buttons located in the rear of your frame! One will turn the gun on and off. The other will turn the eyes on and off!


WHATS THE TIME LINE TO SEE THESE THINGS?

I should have the proto-type boards to me by next week if all goes well. Once I am satisfied with the results,.... we will begin complete production immediately. What does that mean??? Means there will be AT LEAST 50 boards made!!!!!

It has not been determined if the boards will come bundled and priced with a UTB,... but I am leaning to that direction to eliminate problems with the programming.

Will the boards have a warrenty? Yes,... only the UTB.

Will there be a pre-order? As of right now,... no.

Will the boards come bundled with eyes? As of right now,... no.

How will I get replacement parts for the boards if they ever go bad? Because we have changed the ports used on the daugther board,... you can use any current manufacturers wire components. An example: The solenoid port plug, battery plug on the EGO, E-BLADE, Scenario Dreams, ION, Original Morlock boards all use the same one. So parts are abundant for interface. In the event you need a new HES, the current stock ones will work as well as the newer ones.

Im sure you all will have a million questions you want to know,.... please be pacient!

I will be updating this thread ALOT!!!! Please keep an eye on the FIRST POST!!!!!! IT WILL CHANGE OFTEN!!!

~ P8nt


Current Pricing Options as of (2/3/2009)

New Solenoid with plunger (calibrated) with connector for plug-in to daughter board = $ 40

Universal T-Board with Type B Wireharness = $ 45

New Power Cable with POS terminal connector and removable daughter board connector = $ ??

New Ultra-HES with daughter board connector = $ ??

[Rudz]

yeah!!!! lol

[Chris Nearchos]

yeah!!!! lol

are you doubting it?


I can fully promise that this is not going to be another TAG pred fumble. this new board does exsist in this world.


I wont say much right now other then I have the design of the board done, i have the first new test board about to head out the door....which means you guys and gals will be seeing it very soon.

Also, I better post some answers now before P8nt gets the snowball of questions on them



1) the "goodie port" is a 12 volt power out port. this will allow you to power any external 12 volt systems (ie hoppers and warps) right from the emag battery/board. means a light load for you the player to carry around on the feild (ie no battery weight or worries of batteries dying). Also, i will continue to make adapters for to bust down the 12 volts to smaller volts if using a halo or another system that requires less power.


2) this board supports warp signal output and also the RF transmitter for those new radio signal hoppers.


3) The new board comes in the same size/shape as the original. Also, as P8nt stated, it will use the two buttons on the emag frame still. So this allows for a completly drop in plug and play board for the emags. NO soldering of wires needed, NO frame modifications, Allows complete use of your stock parts. But i do suggest to pick up fresh parts if possible just because of how used the older parts are.



I am sure there are a few more things i can state for you guys. But i think its best for me to get back to the grind stone and get these things produced so you can see what it does for yourself.




but back to your regular programming now.

-Chris

[Rudz]

Chris, I was actually happy this was coming, geez, always picking fights, lolj.k

[BenoitOWN]

Will it use the current mags programmer?(If there is any software update over the time)

What would it give better other than having new port compare to Xmod user?

Uses the current buttons located in the rear of your frame! One will turn the gun on and off. The other will turn the eyes on and off!

If the button are used for those, where we will change the firing mode?

[Chris Nearchos]

Chris, I was actually happy this was coming, geez, always picking fights, lolj.k

my bad, my bad.

Will it use the current mags programmer?(If there is any software update over the time)

What would it give better other than having new port compare to Xmod user?

Uses the current buttons located in the rear of your frame! One will turn the gun on and off. The other will turn the eyes on and off!

If the button are used for those, where we will change the firing mode?

these are some simple questions i can answer for p8nt.


1) no, it will not use the Xmod programmer. the programming is being controlled by a different micro processer. so the xmod programming can not work with it.


2) I would have to say that because it gives you all the same features of the Xmod programming and THEN MUCH MORE allows it to pull ahead of Xmod. that and it doesnt require the person to spend a good bit of $$$ for a flash of the software. the great software for this board comes stock!


3) the trigger becomes your third button in the setup which gives you the ability to change fire modes, settings like dwell and so forth, and etc...


Hope that answers your questions.

-Chris

[Me�iCX]

My biggest gripe with other electros and aftermarket boards, T-Boards included, is the automatic shut off. I don't have the problem with the stock emag board.

Does the latest T-Board programming include an option to disable automatic shut off?

[BenoitOWN]

My second question was toward person that already have the Xmod and there are still board that have Xmod that we dont need to pay for the software.

''gives you all the same features of the Xmod programming and THEN MUCH MORE allows it to pull ahead of Xmod. that and it doesnt require the person to spend a good bit of $$$ for a flash of the software''
That really depends on the price of the board too wich we dont have at this time.

[Chris Nearchos]

Does the latest T-Board programming include an option to disable automatic shut off?

hmm, i wasnt aware the T-board did this. I actually had the board powered on for 2 full days for a stress test of the new board setup. And it did not turn off on me. But P8nt will be able to answer the programming question for you.

My second question was toward person that already have the Xmod and there are still board that have Xmod that we dont need to pay for the software.

''gives you all the same features of the Xmod programming and THEN MUCH MORE allows it to pull ahead of Xmod. that and it doesnt require the person to spend a good bit of $$$ for a flash of the software''
That really depends on the price of the board too wich we dont have at this time.

I'am not sure iam following your question then. But if your asking what would make this board worth getting then just flashing the stock with Xmod, then i would have to answer with the following.

1) gives much more options to the user

2) should be the same price range area

3) allows use of break beam and reflective off one board. No need for special programming or special parts. Its already to go for either system.

4) allows for every part to be plug and play. which if you have taken your stock board in and out, you know you have to unsolder this and that everytime. with this board you dont have to. just unplug whatever you want to change and plug the new in. Even the power wire going to the board just plugs right in.

5) if something happens with the driving board. you wont have to spend a good chunk of $$$ for a whole new board. just need grab a new driving board. meaning it will be very cheap to repair or even replace if a problem ever does happen.

6) due to the special programming modes on the driving board, it will allow use in many more special playing circuits without problems.


there are many more reasons, but i will let P8nt tell them.


-Chris

[MntlHazrd]

DANGIT! how am i suppose to save money when you keep coming out with awsome products?!

[Chris Nearchos]

just an idea

just an idea....but would their be any interest in having the option of having your name on the board? meaning built into the top side of the board.

something I have been thinking about for a few days now. but i finally have a place to ask the question.

would be a great touch to make the board personal and special to you. also would be a great way to prevent someone from stealing your marker and trying to sell it. would be pretty stupid since your name is on it.


-Chris

[BenoitOWN]

just an idea....but would their be any interest in having the option of having your name on the board? meaning built into the top side of the board.

something I have been thinking about for a few days now. but i finally have a place to ask the question.

would be a great touch to make the board personal and special to you. also would be a great way to prevent someone from stealing your marker and trying to sell it. would be pretty stupid since your name is on it.


-Chris

Would cost something or not?

[Chris Nearchos]

Would cost something or not?

to tell you the truth right now i dont know the answer to that question. even if it would, it would only be a small charge i would believe. again, this is just a thought i have been having. i have not looked into the details yet. just asking if people would be wanting such a thing then i will get the details on it.

-Chris

[p8ntbal4me]

Chris,.. just keep answering questions as you can,.. I will do the same.

As far as why make the new boards,.. well,.. there are no more e-mag boards,... Im SURE you all know this to be true by now.

Like Chris said,.. these are powered by another microchip,.. so basically you would want this if you need a new board to replace a broken one, or you WANT to keep your original for a re-sale purpose and want to try something that offers a bit MORE for your AGD marker.

The purpose for using the UTB to drive this project was:

The ability to replace ONLY the parts that break,.. and not EVERYTHING as a whole

The ability to remove ONLY the parts you want to,.. and not have to break the marker down and re-assemble it EVERY time. If you get paint on the main board area,.. you can un-plug every component, leave them all installed, and take out JUST the main board. Try doing that with the stock board,.... its impossible.

The daughter board only houses connection ports and minor components. So the cost to build them is ALOT lower than the AGD stock board. Because the UTB is used to drive the whole thing as one piece, we are given the option to change JUST the UTB in the event of a failed board, but leaving the daugther board installed and the components attached (like the ACE, HES, etc) un-changed.

** Medicx: You asked: "Does the the current T-Board programming allow the dissabling of the Automatic Shut Off feature?"

The answer is: Yes the current software supports the feature, and yes you can turn the feature on and off as you wish. The default from Scenario Dreams is 10 minutes of trigger/button in-activity.

If your looking for a board for your E/X-Mag and you already like your stock board,.. then maybe this isnt what your looking for.

The reason I wanted to get Chris on-board with the project was because in the event when you NEED a new board because your old one is broke,... you have no alternatives for a NEW product. This fills that gap in. We looked at the choices long and hard before going with the design we have now. Chris has added in things that will make this a much better solution for those of you that like to REALLY take apart your gun after each use and clean it out! Some of you are very happy with what you have now,... and thats the idea. When your faced with the option to look at replacing some parts in your E/X-Mag though,.. take a look at what is being offered here and what it would cost to just replace what you have now with USED versus NEW. Then take that option and ADD in current eye support, power management, upgradable, standardised components,... the list goes on. You would be buying NEW and current, which will ADD value to your marker if you ever choose to sell it.

~ P8nt

[Epic_Scotsman]

Any chance of sending are emags in to get this installed?