*Deviant Bolt System | Interchangable bore, bolt tips!!!

[*ArKfEaR*]

http://itspaintball.com/page5.html

Now this looks hot, whenever it comes out Im picking one up for my bushy.

Its out for the cocker now.

Very great idea, if you want the perfect paint match for your barrel, why not for your bolt too?

Mad light + very smoothe.

[Southpaw]

That is funny why buy a marker so out of tolerance that you would need that?? I would hope that all "GOOD" guns have some sort of testing to see if things had the tolarances that were acceptable. with all bad bodys melted down to form a new gun.

[MarkM]

I thought the same thing, surely the bolt would be of the right size for the breech in the first place so then any mis-match is from the ball onwards..after all any mis-match of the internals will lead to inconsistency.
If this new bolt system is trying to overcome the differing ball sizes then how in the hell does it centre the ball? Unless you are firing 180 degrees straight up the ball will fall to one side of the bolt..if you could even feed a marker like that, not that it would matter as even if you could, as last time I looked players don't perform bombing runs

[Crighton]

I've been telling my buddies about my paintball gimmick idea for over a year now. Looks like some one finally put it into production. I'm sure they will sell hundreds of them just on the idea that it does something. I know that was my plan.

[dansim]

thats pretty retarded

[-=Squid=-]

That really is a dumb idea, but of course, they will sell hundreds on a gimmick. Good thing AO isnt that retarded

[JEDI]

It is fairly retarded. The ball is gonna sit in the breech or the barrel, and not really be effected by the bore size of the bolt. Especially in a cocker. The ball is loaded into and waiting in the barrel. A fuzzy stick squeegie from the back end of the gun would do the same job of loading the ball.

The last thing I'm gonna do before a tourney is match my ball to my barrel, and then match my bolt to my barrel. I rarely do anything other than screw a boomstick onto my gun.

[CpSuPeRkId]

i dont think you guys are grasping the concept of it. its not to match your paint. its to match the bore of your bolt tube perfectly so you get less blowback which can result in faster feeding probably and definintely a gain in air efficiency. i think its a good idea and will probably sell pretty well. is it for me? hell no. i wont spend 60 bucks on a bolt KIT. thats rediculous. i have NEVER had a problem with blow back or anything of that matter with any of the guns ive owned and especially not with the viking i own now. im not going to replace the perfectly fitted aka lightning bolt with this one that could end up proving to be bad quality and pointless. so in theory, yes i still think its a good idea and its cool that somebody made it. but i personally dont see a point in actually buying one.

[FooTemps]

Originally posted by CpSuPeRkId
i dont think you guys are grasping the concept of it. its not to match your paint. its to match the bore of your bolt tube perfectly so you get less blowback which can result in faster feeding probably and definintely a gain in air efficiency. i think its a good idea and will probably sell pretty well. is it for me? hell no. i wont spend 60 bucks on a bolt KIT. thats rediculous. i have NEVER had a problem with blow back or anything of that matter with any of the guns ive owned and especially not with the viking i own now. im not going to replace the perfectly fitted aka lightning bolt with this one that could end up proving to be bad quality and pointless. so in theory, yes i still think its a good idea and its cool that somebody made it. but i personally dont see a point in actually buying one.

you just proved our point. It's really dumb since the gain is minimal for the price.

[JEDI]

Originally posted by FooTemps


you just proved our point. It's really dumb since the gain is minimal for the price.

Right, and why would you buy several bolt sizes so that one works, and you end up never using the other 3 sizes? Why not just bring your gun to a shop, and slide a few different bolts into your gun. Then, just buy ONE bolt that fits well.

I think this product leans on the side of pointless, and unnecessary.

[thei3ug]

with oringless bolts on electros, there's a bit of blowback which tended to affect your max ROF. your dwells and your balls are affected. Fitted bolts increased the efficiency and your feed rate at higher ROF.

With cockers it's the same thing. People were noticing blowback even with some oringed bolts. Most people don't realize this, but historically WGP tubes have varied WIDELY over the past 15 years. Even in one production year you have wide variations in ID. Though there's such a big deal about "genuine" bodies sparked by the suit, AKA bodies are made to closer tolerance. But that's besides the point. So the problem with electros is made VERY apparent in an autococker, already at a ROF disadvantage with closed bolt action. Instead of getting a fitted bolt, they took a page from Bob Long's book and had interchangeable heads. Same price.

you don't USE all the heads. you only use ONE head. the heads are provided so you pick the one that works in your gun. You do this because A) you don't bring a caliper to a paintball store and check every delrin oringless bolt's OD... and it cost just as much to get a fitted bolt.

Seriously... are you complaining because of the cost, similar to many of the decent bolts out there, or because it has more than one part, and are complaining on principle? It's a time effective, economical solution to sending your gun into a guy with a lathe who will have it for a few weeks.

[shartley]

[JEDI]

No ones complaining, or going on the warpath against a company. People are just stating their opinions, and commenting on the lack of necessity. My gun, and most guns have worked acceptably well before this bolt, and they will continue to do so after.

[shartley]

Originally posted by JEDI
No ones complaining, or going on the warpath against a company. People are just stating their opinions, and commenting on the lack of necessity. My gun, and most guns have worked acceptably well before this bolt, and they will continue to do so after.

[JEDI]

Sure, I'd say thats a fair assesment. But where do you draw the line between money spent, and marginal improvement? When I say works fairly well, I mean I dont want/need any more outta my marker. I'm happy with its performance. But none the less Shartley, your comparison is a good point.