OFFICIAL Fantasy Emag Contest Q&A!!!!!

[shartley]

This thread is for your Fantasy Emag Contest Questions!

Before asking ANY Questions, please actually READ ALL Questions and Answers already Posted. More times than not, your Question will have already been both asked and answered.

Thank you for your understanding.

[Arman/XPM]

So, are we supposed to design our own mag?

[Shaft]

What's the dealine?

[shartley]

Arman/XPM
You are to design what YOU think will be the Ultimate E-Mag (thus the Fantasy part). As the rules state, you are free to use what you like to design this with.. BUT you can NOT use any part of the picture Tom posted as the Example and inspiration for this contest.

Please review all rules again, I am sure if your read them slowly, you will get the idea.

I hope this helps. I will help clarify the rules for those who need it, and make sure all issues are handled, BUT I will not restate clearly written rules (that gets counter productive).. I will simply ask that Members review the rule number(s) that cover their question(s). I will even provide the Member with the exact rule number.

In your case, it is pretty clear what the contest is about, please review Tom's original Post, and the Official Rules Thread. It is clearly outlined.

For other Members wanting to ask questions, please be a bit more specific. It is hard answering a question that could be answered several ways depending on how you read it.

Thank you for your understanding.

[shartley]

Shaft
Deadline is MIDNIGHT of the last day of the contest, November 30th, 2001. Since we have a WORLD to deal with on AO, we will make it midnight on the West Coast of the U.S.A.

The entries will then be gathered and made into a gallery (much like the Design the Box contest), and all Members will be provided with instructions as to how to vote.

[Phil]

I, like most of the AO members, have no computer grafix design skills to speak of. Would it be possible to either scan a drawing or simply spell out in words an idea and have a chance of winning?

[shartley]

Phil
I am sorry, but no. Part of what Tom wanted was as follows...

Quoted from Tom:

I want to see stuff that looks COOL and REAL (as possible). I am looking for creative ideas on looks that can eventually be used in our gun line. I want pictures that make people on other forums say "is that REAL??".

As you can see, a hand drawn picture or a text description will just not work. Please take note that there WILL be, and HAVE been, contests run that don't require what this one does. In fact directly after this one, there will be a "Name The Fantasy E-Mag Contest".

Noone is being left out. People just have to enter the contests they can realistically compete in. However, as with most contests here on AO, YOU the Members, have a great deal of participation no matter wether you enter, or VOTE.

Thank you for your understanding.

[Flamebo]

uhhh Sam

Might wanna drop part of your last post so nobody gets a head start on it...

Nobody except me, that is

[shartley]

Flamebo
Actually Tom already mentioned it in his announcement Thread. I am not saying anything Tom had not already openly posted.

Quote from Tom:

The contest is going to run for at least 2-3 weeks so you have time. For the non-photoshop people there will be another contest to Name the Fantasy after this one.

So chances are, people will skip right over this post as well. I am however, going to suggest to Tom that a LIMIT be put on the number of names people can enter.. that will make them THINK about the names and not run down a Thesaurus or Video Game list (like they did last time). That should solve THAT problem.

But we are focusing on ONE contest at a time.

[AkaEnder]

Quick question regarding the ownership of these designs.

Any potential Patent or Copyright infringement would be worked out during the actual development of the Marker (if said Marker was to be developed), NOT during the concept phase.

12) All entries become the property of AGD.

Im alittle confused after reading through the rules who actually owns the design.

eg: if my design is actually developed at some point and time, I have no rights over my orginal artwork? Im effectively trading those rights for the chance at an RTpro?

[shartley]

AkaEnder
Actually you bring up two totally different issues. Let me address each separately.

Any potential Patent or Copyright infringement would be worked out during the actual development of the Marker (if said Marker was to be developed), NOT during the concept phase.

You did what is so classic on AO... Taking things out of context. That section has nothing to do with the contestants' rights to copyright or patents. It deals ONLY with existing parts and designs of actual Paintball Markers being produced by other Manufacturers, as they pertain to any Concept Graphics produced by contestants of the contest.

If I may, please examine the ACTUAL Rule:

6) You may use any parts from other Markers in your designs. Since this is a Concept Contest and the actual Marker will not be made (but may influence future designs), this is allowed. Any potential Patent or Copyright infringement would be worked out during the actual development of the Marker (if said Marker was to be developed), NOT during the concept phase. So have fun!

Your other quote from the rules is dead on. It would be silly for us to sign contracts with each and every contestant to give AGD Rights to the Concept Graphics or to figure in any potential profits gained by the design. Thus, as was with the Box Design Contest, all entries become property of AGD upon submission. This is quite common.

However, if anyone has a problem with that rule, that is fine. They are free to either enter the contest, or not to. We had the same question asked with the Box Design Contest and it went just fine. We had plenty of submissions, and we all had a great time. The spirit of the Contests are NOT to take advantage of AO Members, it is to GIVE to them, and I am sure most see this clearly.

Yes, when you enter a design, you are instantly signing away all future rights to that work for the chance to win one of the prizes offered.

(Added Note: I know this was longer than a simple YES, but there were two issues actually mentioned. And I wanted to head off any further questions of this type. I hope everyone understands,.... and AkaEnder, it was not directed at you personally.)

[Wild_Osiris]

Could I have a z-grip emag? ( I know it was in the ex pic). Can I do my own milling? If not what is the point? Just see the coolest colors?

[manike]

Originally posted by shartley
BUT you can NOT use any part of the picture Tom posted as the Example and inspiration for this contest.

I think this statement is a little confusing. I hope the intention is not to stop people using the z-grip outline or the outline of the SFL Extreme.

People should be able to use parts of that pictrure that are generic to the Mag world. I.e. the z-grip and the SFL body shape outline. Just not copy the exact style of that example.

I think it would be great it people used the outline from the Extreme bodies as their starting point. If they do that there may be even more chance of seeing their design evolve out of the fantasy world and into reality...

If people would be interested in basic view images (side, iso etc.) of the extreme body, and if that is acceptable within the rules then I can provide them as starter images.

manike

[shartley]

Wild_Osiris
Yes. You can have a Z-Grip Emag. You can also make an M-Grip Emag if you like. The only restriction is that you can not use the same Z-Grip Image used by Tom in his Announcement Thread.

Yes, you do your own milling, modifications, combination of parts/products, setup, etc.

Just follow the Official Rules... they still allow a WIDE range of things you can do, and more flexibility than most would need.

Hope this answers your question.

[Snappy]

To have the max ammount of originality I think we should keep out ideas to ourselves, and the gallery CLOSED, until 01DEC01 (First of December). Is that how it works? I wasn't hever for the other contest.