I just got shot in the mouth by my on/off valve

[j.t.]

Ok, I was taking apart my minimag when I found I couldnt get my valve out. So me being the idiot that I am decided to remove my intelliframe/rail to check things out.

Now, I knew ahead of time this would be unsafe ACCEPT for the fact that I had degased the marker completly. I run a screw in tank, and it, along with the macro line connecting to the valve was removed. (i also pulled the trigger back, opening the valve just incase there still might be air in it)

This usually works for me and has been since I got level 10 (during the beta testibg stage). Possibly could have been my recent addition of my intelliframe but i dont understand how this could effect it.

Anyways, when I tried to remove the valve the on/off valve shot out (not just the pin) leaving me with a pretty good fat lip. It deflected off of me into my room somewhere and I havent been able to find it yet.

Im gonna go search for my on/off now so if anyone has any explanation to why this happened and tips on how to avoid this again it would be helpfull. Thanks

:o

[e mag]

i always point the bottom of the valve away from me.

[Brak]

you got off pretty lucky. a while ago someone posted the same thing as you, but the pin shot THOUGH their lip. just be careful next time

[j.t.]

I understand that I was fortunate I did not get injured, but how do I release of the gas in the valve?

[Ghengis]

So I guess we'll keep our Mask on while tuning too... :P

[WickeDKlowN]

The exact same thing happened to me the other night. Except it hit me in the forehead(bout an inch from my eye). I looked all over for it, then the metal parts(pin, top, and bottom) were stuck in my hat. Never did find the o-rings...

It was a classic valve, and the stock frame if it matters. Hasn't happened since tho.

I knew something sounded funny when air was leaking from somewhere after the tank was completly off the gun, and the hoses were disconnected...

[Dave]

I would definitely like a response to this issue as well. And for anyone reading, no, we are not talking about the residual pressure left in the air hoses...this is entirely in the valve, with the gun degassed, the quick-disconnet undone, and the trigger pulled. Didn't have this problem before level 10. Also, it is sporadic...I throw my valve into different setups, and I get different results of residual pressure...sometimes none at all.

The reason why I am interested in this is because I too, had an issue with the on/off flying off at me(wasn't due to the level 10 though, whole other story) and freaked my out when it flew by my face, 2 inches from my eye. If this is a more common problem, AGD DEFINITELY needs to include a warning of some sort about this in the Level 10 instructions. Yes, it may sound stupid, but it happens, and happens a lot, and could be a potential case for a lawsuit (not joking)

-Dave

[omni]

IT's happend to me before as well, with the Macro Taken out so there was no way my vavle could have been getting any air.

It shot up in the air and landed on the table, I though I had lost the two o-rings, but I later found them on the pool table at the field by randomly putting my hand on them while talking to some players.

[j.t.]

Im glad im not the only one who this has happened to. I dont feel quite as dumb now. :)

Only way of releasing the gas though would be to pull the bolt forward somehow. Im pretty sure there was a thread about this a long time ago, I couldnt find it when I searched though.

[xadamx]

its happened to me too. what i do is just take my valve out very slowly and usually it will shoot into the rail and then its fine, you just have to push it back in. so take your valve off slowly and you shouldnt have to worry about getting shot or loosing orings

[Sinistarr]

I have never had anything like that happen to me yet. I never try to dissassemble the marker while it is gassed up, I remove the airline at the quick-disconnect, and I never take the valve out in any other position than with the marker upright, not upside down or facing me.

I have never heard of a mag holding pressure internally untill just recently (last 2-3 months). My LvL10 has been installed for more than 6 months, and was disassembled at least 30-40 times in between with no instances of this happening.

G

[maglover52]

same thing happend to me it sucked. i found my on/off though:) good luck searching!

[Paintchucker]

As you degas the gun...

Do you shoot the gun down? As I twist out the tank, I always shoot the gun to release gas/pressure. This comes from back in the old CO2 days. CO2 tanks sometimes have more pressure coming out of the tank than NitroTanks. If you shot the gun, it released the pressure until it built up in the gun again. When pressure was lowered, you could turn the tank a little, then shoot/turn, shoot/turn, until it finally got out all the way.

Anywho, long story short, I always do this when I degas the gun...

Not sure if that will help or not, it seems like too much of a coincidence for you to all have this with levelX.

[Gadget]

I've not had the on/off try and kill me, but since getting an x-valve I have noticed that even after I degass the valve using my pro-connect, about 10 seconds later the valve dumps a second load of gas. Weird.

[bornl33t]

cracks me up everytime I see these threads pop up... I know I'm naughty. IN all honesty this would pry be reason enough to sue AGD. NOT that I'm insinuating you should, but AGD REALLY needs to work on this... it's a little un-nerving to hear about the guns shooting the owners... about as bad as when one of those sipder clones were shooting bolts out he barrel...