Does power feed slow down feeding?

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  • trutle
    It's turtle, I can't spell
    • May 2003
    • 58

    #1

    Does power feed slow down feeding?

    Is it true that with a power feed you cannot shoot as fast as with a vertical feed? Does it really make a difference? Lets assume the both have mechanical hoppers.
    My Mini-Mag:
    Red ULE Body
    X-valve
    Level 10 Bolt
    Itelliframe with "blade trigger"
    Silver gas through Grip with red grip
    Red Dead on "Pro-Style" 7.5 inch drop forward
    All-American Barrel with 10 inch AA front and 14 freak front
    Red "RIT" dyed eVolution II Loader
    68/4500 Center Flag tank with red Angel Air "Lok Sok"
  • sniper1rfa
    (Not a Wang Force member.)
    • Aug 2001
    • 1107

    #2
    a vetical feed wont feed any faster than a powerfeed. well, maybe a little, but VERY little, so hey...
    "The Fine Print: Discontinue use if your eyeballs suddenly get way smaller."

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    • trutle
      It's turtle, I can't spell
      • May 2003
      • 58

      #3
      i'll wait for a second opinion, but thanks for your input.
      My Mini-Mag:
      Red ULE Body
      X-valve
      Level 10 Bolt
      Itelliframe with "blade trigger"
      Silver gas through Grip with red grip
      Red Dead on "Pro-Style" 7.5 inch drop forward
      All-American Barrel with 10 inch AA front and 14 freak front
      Red "RIT" dyed eVolution II Loader
      68/4500 Center Flag tank with red Angel Air "Lok Sok"

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      • athomas
        Of course it works-its AGD
        • Jan 2002
        • 8039

        #4
        On a gun with no blowback, it will theoretically feed faster with a vertical feed. Some ball bobble may occur when the bolt hits the next ball in line which may interfer with the feed rate. A good feeder will prevent ball bobble.

        On a gun with some blowback, it will feed faster with a powerfeed. The bolt hitting the next ball in line will not cause ball bobble. The air and/or ball bobble will actually cause the next ball to be rebounded into the breach in a rapid fire situation.
        Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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        • trxtr
          MCC Scenario Paintball
          • Apr 2003
          • 129

          #5
          myths and facts

          with the exception of the HALO, Eggo's and warpfeed, all motorized hoppers with impellers merely prevent ball jams. They DO NOT feed any faster than if you had a 10 rd tube sticking out the top of your gun, vertically or at an angle.
          Therefore, when not using a force feeder, the more balls stacked in succesion, the faster your gun will feed. Hence, the pro feeds for angle loaders, and the hi-risers for vert feeds (yes, they DO have a purpose). Are pro-feeds faster than verts? Depends on the hopper. In regards to non-forcefeed motorized hoppers, i'd say absolutely, they allow more balls to be stacked than a vert. Furthermore, the more balls in-line, the less likely blowback will be a problem because of the added weight of more paint. However, i know the halo's (forcefeeder)are suggested to be as close to the breech as possible, which is why, i surmise, the new ule bodies are "no-rise". thats my educated guess, anyhow.
          ...but there's an "I" in SNIPER.

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          • Viral
            Paintball Whore
            • May 2001
            • 161

            #6
            Powerfeeds are faster

            I'm surprised this knowledge seems to have been lost on the new crowd of AOers. The powerfeed does, indeed, load faster than a centerfeed. If you can get your hands on an original Mag video, Tom explains this whole design, but for the rest of you, I'll do my best to summarize it here...

            Since the automag is a blow forward design, its one inherent flaw is that a certain amount of gas escapes up the feed tube before the bolt moves forward enough to seal it off. This small burst of gas actually acts to slow the feeding of balls below the normal abilities of gravity. Simply put, it bobbles the paintballs back up toward the hopper. However, with a powerfeed, only a single ball is stacked next in line. As a shot is fired and gas blows up the feedtube, it pushes the paintball back against the PF wall where the air rushes around the ball and out the vent hole. The paintball riccochets off the PF wall and into the breach faster than gravity would normally pull it, and quite a bit faster than would be possible with the bobble effect of a straight tube.

            The entire design of the powerfeed was an engenius way to turn a negative side effect of "blow-forward" design into a useful energy.

            Of course, the recent design of force feed hoppers and warp feeds makes the powerfeed unnecessary. But that wasn't the question posed in this thread

            --Viral
            MY E-MAG WAS STOLEN!
            E-mag | '93 Mag | Original RT | Grey Spirit

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