The Shame, the horror, the possible legal action...?

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  • punkncat
    One foot less
    • Feb 2003
    • 5841

    #1

    The Shame, the horror, the possible legal action...?

    Well I made a complete butt of myself at the field the other day....I had an extremely long work week. I guess I should have taken that into account and not went at all.
    I got to the field and there was a small turnout. Only about 6 people there, with two refs. Given that one or two people would leave in between each game to refill air or paint it was generally a 2 on 2 with 2 refs.

    My first game out we picked up teams, me and another guy vs. a dad who plays often and his newbie 13-15 year old son. The game starts and we all run to our bunkers, pretty much mirroring each other. Knowing that no one else is going to try very hard to move I decide to leave my anchor spot in the back and play front for the fun of it. I mean hey it is a "friendly" rec game, and I like to try to play out of position when I can.

    I run from the back mid left to the back left. My guy was holding in my mirror, and I had the cross field shot on his, so I kept him in and moved up to the 30 left. I took a few shots on the bunker, fired a volley to put the other team in and started to make a run for the center 50.

    I am a pretty big and slow guy. So if I get caught on the run its really easy to eliminate me. Generally why I play anchor... well as I am running for the 50 the newbie kid pops out and just mows on me. I am talking about he just starts firing as fast as he can and blasts me with 7-10 shots. I stop running, put up my hands and marker and he keeps on shooting me another 5 or so times. I can hear the ref yelling that I am out, but he doesn't stop. So I step into the shadow of the 50 bunker and he stops firing. I have my marker up and am pulling out my barrel plug. As I walk out the other side the kids goes nuts on me again, lighting me up another 5-8 times. I can hear both refs yelling to him that I was already out. I mean it should have been obvious the first time when 5 balls broke down one side, not including the bounces, I stop running, firing and put my hands up.....but...

    So I completly loose it. I completly forget that its a kid who has just overshot the hell out of me. I start yelling at this kid, cussing him out about overshooting. I lifted up my marker and vblast a volley at his bunker asking how the ___ he likes being overshot, as I quit shooting I yell at him that its a good clue you got someone when paint busts on them, they quit running, firing back, and are putting their barrel plug on. I can't even tell you how bad I cussed this guy out. Like I said I got so pissed that I just completly forgot time and place and went into rage mode.

    Well the very instant this happened, I am walking back up to the top to pack up my gear and regretting loosing my cool that way. I felt so bad. In spite of what he did to instigate the situation by WAY overshooting me, it was totally wrong of me to act that way.

    Well the owner of the field and I are good friends. The dad had instantly run to him and demanded that I be removed from the field. I was already leaving anyway, too pissed to play, but the owner looks at the guy and tells him that he will not be told how to run his field. Well this dad knows the man whos business lic. this field runs under and calls him raising hell, and is an old family friend of his. He tells the owner and proprieter that if I am not expelled from the field he will bring legal action. Both refs came up and backed me up to a point, in that the kid really way overshot me, causing the situation. The guy that runs the field is backing me up also. But as I understand the dad has yet to talk to the actual business owner in person, and as I said is threatening legal action against the field, possibly me.

    I am unsure as to whether I will be able to play there any more. I am also a bit worried about the legal threat. Is there honestly anything he can do?
    I feel terrible about allowing my emotions to run away that way. I have already apologized to the the owner. I haven't had the opp. to talk to the kid and dad, and was advised not to even if I did.
  • BigEvil
    www.BigEvilOnline.com

    • Feb 2005
    • 9333

    #2
    Just remember, legal action costs big bucks, so unless this guy lights cigars with $100 bills I wouldnt worry about it.

    Anyone with a conscience would feel bad about ripping someone, but from your story it is understandable why you did it. Dont loose sleep over any of this b.s. the kid deserved it.

    I probably would have done worst, but then again... us Italians are known for our tempers

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    • AGDlover
      And boom goes the dynamite
      • Aug 2003
      • 3322

      #3
      Keep playing there you have witnesses saying it wasnt you who started the "disturbance" so you shouldnt have anything to worry about so if the guy diecides to get in your face about it again just say "Well I have witnesses saying your kid started the hole thing and if you dont get off me about it I'll throw a harrasiment lawsuite agents you"
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      • ojhspyro89
        The bushy man!
        • May 2004
        • 1078

        #4
        Well i dont think its illegal to swear and cuss at people. You never tried to assault him. And i agree, this guy isnt some extreemly rich guy cause court isnt too cheap.

        I think youll be allright being you have 2 witnesses. Also, what would he charge you for? Getting frustrated cause some kid over shot..?
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        • craltal
          MCB, baby...
          • Oct 2003
          • 1452

          #5
          If none of your balls actually hit the kid, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. If you want to split hairs, the kid assaulted you physically.

          The owner should back up his staff when he gets an account of what happened.

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          • MisterBones25
            ROCK ON!!!
            • Oct 2004
            • 321

            #6
            i think if most people would have lost their cool if something like that happened, i know i would have. you were totaly in the right, you did verbaly assault the kid, but thats after he physicly assaulted you. leaving after the incident was probably a great idea too. and dont think your hard week at work had anything to do with it. after a hard week, for me a day of ballin, even a bad day of ballin, realy helps me relax. once again, you were totaly in the right and anybody that was there would most likely agree.

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            • JimmyBeam
              Registered User
              • Mar 2004
              • 1105

              #7
              if the father let his son get away with that without any discipline of any kind, i would of given the father a 5 minute ***** session

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              • maxama10
                Take off every zig!
                • Sep 2004
                • 1497

                #8
                whats he gonna sue for? cussing in public or whatever its called? what a prick, you shoulda shot him too

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                • CodeMA
                  ...yep...
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 1455

                  #9
                  Id say you deffently have a case against him to use as levrege if the guy wants to be a total deck... Kid clearly assulted you, plenty of people to back this...

                  Verbaly assulting the kid, not such a big deal considering the circumstancs with what the kid did to you, its a natural reaction, I must say Ive seen worse insidents... and the fact that you shot AT the bunker, provideing you didnt stitch the kid in the process, should wave any phyical assult charges the dad may come up with...

                  I say you SHOULD be ok here, if he does file charges...file counter charges and unless he really wants to throw a lot of cash into something stupid for a civil case to get cash to pay for all this, he will prolly drop charges/ suits...hopefully
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                  • oldsoldier
                    just choke yourself out!!!
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 2459

                    #10
                    What legal action is he gonna bring against you? Yelling? I dont think that thats a crime. You didnt physically touch the kid, so, there's no grounds. You shot his bunke,r not him, so, again, no grounds. The guy should have had control over his son. moreso, the refs shouldve pulled that kid off the field, for the day. Understand, I am in no way defending the fact that you blew up at him. I've done it a couple times myself, and usually regret it (not always, there are SOME instances where intimidation actually works). The other guy has a total right to never attend the field again. However, I think blatantly overshgooting someone is far more inherently dangerous than yelling. After all, he overshot you something like 12-15 times. That could constitute assault :)
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                    • Miscue
                      Super Moderator

                      • Oct 2000
                      • 7105

                      #11
                      My first thought is he is full of hot air.

                      My second thought is that you didn't even hit him, so what can he say?

                      My third thought is - if he takes some kind of action, you MUST do so as well because the kid assaulted you. It's not about getting even, it's about protecting yourself.

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                      • JimmyBeam
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1105

                        #12
                        yea he doesnt really have a leg to stand on. im sure he was just heated at that moment. has he cooled down, has the owner heard anything from him?

                        if not, tell the rest of the field not to play when those two are there. they will eventually leave.

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                        • teufelhunden
                          Registered Bamf
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 2691

                          #13
                          Concur with Miscue. Sounds like a dad who has yet to impress upon his kid responsibility and the rules of the game. May as well just jump the gun and call up the local PD and file assault charges. You said you've three witnesses.. will shut the dad up and cya.
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                          • GT
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                            • Dec 2001
                            • 5786

                            #14
                            A life lesson I learned long ago. People who threaten with power rarely have the will or skill to use it.

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                            • behemoth
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                              • Nov 2002
                              • 7750

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigEvil
                              I probably would have done worst, but then again... us Italians are known for our tempers
                              I was thinking the same thing.

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