The Shame, the horror, the possible legal action...?

[onedude36]

I know this is a little off topic, but what kind of marker did the kid have? From your description, it was a preety fast marker. I think the father should be able to know his son's own maturity and decide whether or not to give his son such a powerful marker. Discuss.

[spacedtedybear]

There is nothing for you to apologize for. Like a balloon, the "dad" is full of hot air with no punch in it. There is no legal action he can possibly take without him being in a lose/lose situation. Keep in mind, you do have 2 refs as witnesses. If you have welts now is a good time to take pictures of them. If he tries to use his friend to close down the field as a result, the field owner can possibly take legal action himself. If you have witnesses to his statement, that would also help.

[Glickman]

I know this is a little off topic, but what kind of marker did the kid have? From your description, it was a preety fast marker. I think the father should be able to know his son's own maturity and decide whether or not to give his son such a powerful marker. Discuss.

well that doesnt matter. if you over shoot me with a talon 50 times, or a timmy 50 times, im still gonna be yelling in your face the same way.

its like comparing the difference between a .22 rifle and 30-06. sure the .22 is less powerfull. but you can still kill someone, same way.

overshooting is dangerous, no matter what kind of gun.




honestly, i wouldnt really worry. a minor assaulted you, you yelled, and either purposully let off some steam, or him shooting caused your fingers to hit the trigger.

[slade]

i can see both sides of this issue. one time i was bonus balled five times in the neck from five feet away, when i was CLEARLY out. i didnt do or say anything, but i was REALLY pissed off. but also just yesterday i was called out for overshooting. i crawled to the end of the snake and could see someone almost from the side, so he was wide open and didnt know i was there. i sent about five balls his way and he immediately leaned into his bunker, and since i didnt see any breaks i thought he was still in. my tank was almost completely empty so it was plausable that they all bounced. so i keep shooting at him (at this point i can really see that the balls are lobbing cause my tanks low), and dont stop because i didnt see a break, he never said anything and the refs never said anything. then all of a sudden he comes out and screams at me "IM OUT!!!!!" and a ref calls me out for overshooting. thats what i see, but that kid probably had a different point of view.

and you might want to consider that the kid maybe couldnt see any breaks on you because his goggles were fogged over or maybe he forgot his glasses, and took the fact that you went behind the bunker as you were still in. and maybe he couldnt hear the refs cause hes at the point where he just filters out everything but him and the other players.

but anyway, i really have to agree that you arent at fault, and even if he does something you have two witnesses backing you. and he probably wont do anything anyway, look at GTs post.

[bleachit]

yeah, sue the father for not controlling his kid and letting him assault you. You were the one who was clearly assaulted, the father should have been responsible for his child and putting a "potentially dangerous weapon" in his hands.... I know its only a paintball marker, but in the hands of morons, like this kid, it can definately be dangerous.

[rkjunior303]

Sucks, I know BUT..

When will people realize generally it's not the act that will get you in more trouble but it's the retaliation.

[Jeffy-CanCon]

I'm gonna be the contrary one.

I don't know about where you live, but in some jurisdictions verbal abuse, threatening or cussing is considered assault. Actually hitting someone would be assault and battery.

While for you to press assault charges against the kid for overshooting is almost certainly valid, you should consider the repercussions of that choice. It would set a nasty precedent in the courts, and probably result in much higher liability insurance fees for paintball fields everywhere. And from the sound of your personal situation, it might very well get your field closed down.

[Jonno06]

and you might want to consider that the kid maybe couldnt see any breaks on you because his goggles were fogged over or maybe he forgot his glasses, and took the fact that you went behind the bunker as you were still in. and maybe he couldnt hear the refs cause hes at the point where he just filters out everything but him and the other players.
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if his glasses/mask was fogged, how the hell did he manage to hit him so many times while shooting?
and punkncat raised his marker with barrel plug showing he was out.

i would have probably shot the kid(not a lot, just a few), and the dad too. sure the kid is a n00b, but his dad HAS to control his son and teach him how to play without giving him a weapon that can hurt people if used inproperly.

[minimag03]

The refs should have done more than tell the kid to stop. I can undertand maybe the first 5-7 shots from a newbie that you scared, but everything after that is bad reffing.

[cdacda13]

The father has no case.
What kind of gun did this newbie have?

Over shooting is a terrible thing. A bonus ball is ok, as long as its in a tourny, or a heated pratice. But in rec ball, over shooting is the worst thing EVER.

[Mr. Mouse]

the kid was the threat shooting you when you werent in play, you should file for assault =) no but seriously that sucks , good luck, if i was the owner id tell that dad to get off my field

[Lee]

seems to me that if the kid isn't listening to the refs, the dad should have stepped in and at the very least told his kid to stop.

[seanpeek]

What if you just took the high road and asked the owner of the field to send them some passes to come back, on you. The kid really messed up, but who really thinks that the kid intentionally went out there to overshoot. We can guess all day long as to what happened or what the kid was thinking about, but we will never know. All we know is that you lost your temper, bad. I don't think anyone here blames you, getting lit up like that for no reason sucks. We all would get pissed off. Most of us would have reacted the same way. It sounds like you know how wrong it was and that you should not have done it. I think a good way to own that behavior is to apologize for it. I say pay for their field fees and let it go. You both screwed up.

[50 cal]

Played a small 3 man tourney in Crossville TN a few summers ago that a guy had his 2 teenage sons as his team. The youngest kid was probably 13-14 yo. He cussed everyone before every game. Told them how bad he would spank thier a**. The wife asked him politely to watch his mouth. He told her "Shut up b****". I looked at the father and asked him if he was going to do something about his kids mouth. The father said No.
We drew them a few games later. Nothing suited me better than to bunker this little foul mouthed "child". I'm sorry I was a little heavy on the trigger finger. The kid was crying when he left the field. People asked me if I felt bad doing that to a kid. I told them no. He got exactly what he deserved.

The kid in punkncat's story got what he deserved. If the field owner doesn't want you back. Fine. Don't give him anymore of your hard earned cash.

[usmc8892]

it's irritating that some people think they can talk and act any way they want, yet when they get called out, and they get taught a lesson, they want to cry and threaten legal action. if you are going to act bad, be prepared to meet someone "badder" than you and be a man about it. the dad should have better prepared his son by going over the rules with him in advance of the game.