i am selling my mag because of AGD

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  • angry owner
    Registered User
    • Jan 2002
    • 3

    #1

    i am selling my mag because of AGD

    well here is my story and since i cant get any help from AGD i figured i would try here

    i recently bought an Emag
    when i got it it ripped was workin great i loved it
    then i had a little problem with it chopping, but it wasnt bad so i figured no big deal
    i played a few times with it, maybe 5 or 6, and magnets out of the trigger broke. i am not sure how and i wasnt even sure what happened till i talked to a friend and he apparently knew what the problem was. well i wasnt happy that my new gun had just broke so i packed up my gear and went home. that week i called AGD tech support and talked to a guy named John. he was helpful and told me to just send it in and he would take care of me no problem. his attitude really kinda settled me down cause i wasnt very happy, but i loved my gun so i sent it in. after all problems can happen to any gun.it took a little time to get my gun back but that was to be expected. so i went to play with it the weekend after i got it back and it didnt work
    i tried to mess with it a little to get it to work, like the velocity and stuff, but i really didnt know what i was doing so i sent home again. by now i was more than a little agitated, i had spent money at a field 2 days now that i wan unable to use my gun. and even after i had sent it to AGD it wasnt fixed. i called up AGD again and asked to talk to the same guy named John. when i talked to him he said it was impossible that the gun didnt work and that i must have done something to it. i told him i took it out of the box and hooked up air to it and it didnt shoot, i mean everything looked like it shoudl shoot but it just didnt. i asked him if there was a possibility he forgot to put something back in. he got all upset and started flipping out. all he kept saying was that i screwed it all up. i was like cool it man can i send it back to get it fixed. he said he had all this work piled up and didnt have enough time to deal with little kids sending back the guns he had just fixed because they decided they wanted to be techs and do it themselves. then he said that if i wanted to send it back i could but it might not be done for a long time. although he didnt come out and say it i got the impression that he wasnt going to work on my gun even if it was the only one there to fix. then, because he was being such a jerk, i asked to talk to another tech. he said no and hung up on me. this was the last straw. not only had AGD made a gun that broke in the first few uses but there tech support was appaling. i mean all i ever asked for was a working gun, and apparently that was to much to ask of Tom Kaye and his employees. because of his company i am selling my e-mag, and taking a dive on it because it is broke, and probably buying an angel or something. my friend has an angel and at least it doesnt break. maybe WDPs tech support is better. thank God that a friend told me about automags.org so that hopefully this problem gets resolved. i just hope that all the other people in the world dont have to deal with the same guy i do. he was the only contact i had at AGD and as there representative i was extremely unsatisfied. i will never buy a AGD product again simply because of this single incident, furthermore i will encourage all the people i know not to buy anything AGD.
  • angry owner
    Registered User
    • Jan 2002
    • 3

    #2
    i am selling my mag because of AGD

    *Edit* I merged the thread from the tech forum to this one in the main forum. Please do not double post threads.
    Last edited by BlackVCG; 01-22-2002, 03:47 PM.

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    • skipdogg
      OG & HNIC
      • Nov 2000
      • 1392

      #3
      sorry to hear that. Im sure AGD will straighten it out for you.
      OLD AO FEEDBACK

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      • snowman
        Registered User
        • Nov 2000
        • 86

        #4
        Dude, I can't believe that happened. I've never had but great service from AGD for over 11 years and brother John has always been a great help. That doesn't sound like him at all. Sorry to lose you as an Automag player. Thoes Emag's can be tricky, I wouldn't even mess with one, and I've been through the tech class.

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        • Crazy
          Denver Altitude
          • Dec 2001
          • 1148

          #5
          i'll trade u my angel for it.
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          • Micromag5371
            Irrelevant Misguided Man
            • Jul 2001
            • 246

            #6
            you should sell it...to me. for $400 i can take that off of your hands and maybe i can pull some tricks out of my hat and get that bunny up and running.
            This Event Really Did happen On the West Coast Of The U.S.A. In WWII the Japanese Constructed Balloons With Bombs On Them. They Would Float Them Into The U.S.A. Through The Pacific Airstream That Crossed The pacific.

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            • cphilip
              Former Moderator

              • Jun 2026
              • 16216

              #7
              Well for one thing Jon doesn't work on Emags. Thats why he said that. Not to be smart. You took it wrong. He is not the Emag tech.

              Tell us, detail by detail, what its doing so we can help you. You have not given us any details to start working with. We will help you.


              AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

              cphilip.com

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              • AngelBoy
                _-=Angel Boy=-_
                • Oct 2001
                • 863

                #8
                I really wouldnt sell it. If you were not impressed with the way John worked, then call AGD and ask for any tech besides John. Maybe its just a bad E-mag. Make sure you tell them about the trigger, although i didnt know that you could break a magnet unless it fell out or somethin. But is you do sell it I wouldnt get an angel. Ive had lots of problems with mine, and they really arent what everyone makes them out to be. If I were you I would try to get in touch with Tom if he doesnt reply to this thread.
                Why go to the light, when darkness has its warmth too....
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                • AGD-OfficeGal
                  Dragon Lady
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 418

                  #9
                  I have emailed you, Angry Owner, asking for some details so we can investigate this. I'm also posting in case the email does not get to you. Please send me the RA number and/or the serial number of your Emag, plus your name and phone number.

                  Thank you.

                  Marcia Purse
                  Administrative Assistant
                  Airgun Designs

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                  • brian terry
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 242

                    #10
                    a bro sorry abought your emag not working..tell you what tom will be going to mg all this week,so he wont be in till next week,but email me at brian terry [email protected] and ill help you out and get the gun shooting so you can use it or sale it ,its up to you let me know....

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                    • AntwanRT
                      are you experienced?
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 451

                      #11
                      i dont know what your deal was. i have had nothing but extreme politeness from jon. hes a good guy. and i am willing to bet that every person on this forum will attest to that.
                      I am not meaning to flame you but i bet you were less than polite to him. i know that when its a job on the line the only time people will bust on someone is only after this person has been rude to them for quite some time.
                      i dont like signatures. so i turned them off. AO is much better this way.

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                      • InfinatyBPS
                        Dead Black Rose
                        • May 2001
                        • 2404

                        #12
                        hmmm...

                        that post is giving me second thoughts about getting that emag...
                        You smell like dookie... No really though.

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                        • cphilip
                          Former Moderator

                          • Jun 2026
                          • 16216

                          #13
                          Nonsense!!!! You will not find better customer service than AGD. There is some extra stuff here we have not heard yet. Keep the faith. Wait till the whole story comes out. It can and will be fixed I have no doubt. Here you have the Office Gal (aka Marcia) and a Tech from AGD (Brian) asking to look into it right away. Where else you gonna get that?


                          AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                          cphilip.com

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                          • udtseal
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2001
                            • 702

                            #14
                            Ohhh boy...mods are gonna have a field day with this one.

                            Lets see, there are easily thousands of E-Mag owners out there that love thier guns and have no problems what so ever. I had a problem with mine when I first got it, turns out it wasent the E-Mag at all, it was the Warp Feed (just wasent timed correctly). Nothing mechanical at all. Thats not to say that mechanical failure dosent occur. But, in your case, I hardly believe that Jon would just "flip out" on you for no reason. He is one of the best techs in the country. Secondly, was your battery charged? Did you try toggeling from E mode to Manual? Was there enough air in your tank? There are a slew of things that you could check first when the gun dosent fire. AGD does not send guns back without first TEST FIREING them. So I find it VERY hard to believe that your gun was sent back to you DOA. AGD's tech support is the BEST IN THE BUSINESS. Once again, hundreds of members on this forum can attest to that.

                            What do I think? I think first you should have: A.) Spent some time and LEARNED about your E-Mag, learn about its inner workings, how it works etc. by watching the video. B.) Made an attempt to do part A.

                            Good day...

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                            • mattyfatty182

                              #15
                              Re: i am selling my mag because of AGD

                              Originally posted by angry owner
                              but i really didnt know what i was doing so i sent home again.
                              It might help if you knew what you were doing

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