i am selling my mag because of AGD

[AGD]

This is the email Marcia sent and what he wrote back. At this point he has not given us a chance to do anything.

AGD



i, fortunently, am in the process of selling my gun and finalizing the deal.

i have no ambition to deal with AGD again
and although i mean no offense to you personnally i am very unsatisfied with
the company as a whole and the image that i was presented with by your
representatives. i am sure that Tom Kaye did not, and doesnt, want his
company portrayed in the manner that it was. this whole thing is an
unfortunant circumstance which i have had to deal with. i no longer want to
be associated with AGD in any way and the only reason i posted that post was
to try and bring to light what was going on in the inner workings of AGD
thank you for your effort and again i mean no disrespect to you personnaly,
just towards your company.

>From: "AGD-OfficeGal"
>To: >angry owner's email<
>Subject: Your post on AO Forum
>Date: 22 Jan 2002 19:57:39 -0000
>
>
>This is the message:
>
>Please email me your RA number from when we worked on your gun and the
>serial number of your Emag so we can investigate this situation. If you
>don't have the RA number, send the serial number. Also send your full name
>and phone number.
>
>Marcia Purse
>Administrative Assistant
>Airgun Designs

[Dubstar112]

The only thing i can say now, is i hope your freind is going to send it in to agd or come here and ask for help nicley. Its not that hard... just answer a few simple questions..

[Potatoboy]

to tom or any mod. I think that in all fairness tom's post should be edited not to reveal this guy's email address. I don't think that something like that should be made public for anyone, that way if he really want to end contact he can remove his email address from his profile and turn of PMs.

[AGD-OfficeGal]

Yes, I have edited out the email address, even before I saw your post!

Marcia

[BlackVCG]

Everyone-

Please, before you make another comment on this thread, think before you post. We don't need anymore flames than we've already seen. While this person has all but proved that he doesn't even own an E-Mag by failing to answer one of Marcia's questions, we don't need snide remarks towards him. We can all but say that this is a hoax, so let's just let this go away. AGD has done everything in their power to rectify the situation, but since this person is unwilling to cooperate, we have no evidence ANYTHING he said was true.

[cphilip]

Well...its perfectly ok to leave it realy. When he registered he made his email available to all. I checked his profile. That was his choice to do so. Its a hotmail one though so its one I usualy give little credence to. They are a dime a dozen. All you need to do is click on the email button and you are emailing him.

So....since he himself let it be known then it stands to reason he doesn't care if it's used.

You cannot help those that chose to not be helped. His motives for this are all suspicious to me anyway. As predicted there seems to be more here than meets the eye.

[Dubstar112]

Here is another idea, we should ask politley if we can contact the buyer of this emag, so that he can get help instead of get "angry"(pun intended)..Angry, mentioned that his friend knew what he was doing.. so he cut him a good price for the emag..

Also a note for angry, there cant be a major problem with AGD because you could search for every emag question on here and it will be most likeley resolved, answerd by agd fixing it or answered by another emag owner...

exactly, if AGD's email is open, and can recieve flames than his email should be open.. but use your judgment and be mature not to flame because its his problem!(ah well since his email is gone, disregard trying to email him a flame )

[Potatoboy]

But in the preferences you can go back and disable that, as he could right now. Also you can ignore all PMs. For example this is how the AGD account is set up. If say angry customer went and turned that off he could still be emailed by someone clicking on that link.

It's just an observation I made, and obviously someone (Marcia) agrees with me.

Phil- I do see your point about hotmail addresses, but for example with all this @home business going on, my email address is going to be chaning. Right now it's not 100% clear what it will be changing to so I am primarily using my backup hotmail account. I really wouldn't be appreciative if I got even more junk mail in it

Dubstar- Tom's personal email address isn't truely public knowledge, just the front desk, which I would assume goes to a couple of peoples inboxes at AGD. It would be silly to compare a informational email at a company to a person's personal email address.

[Dubstar112]

Potato, I understand, I was just trying to justify somthin that doesnt need to be, because all in all, the maturity level should be enough in 99 percent of the people to say"Its childish to flame"..

[cphilip]

Yes! you sure can change it. No one is stopping him. His choice. But I didn't ever say I disagreed with the two of you. I just wanted you all to know it was not like Tom had posted anything contrary to this members wishes. He didn't as you can see. I had looked into it earlier today. But removing it is fine too.

Sure I know some of them are legit. I said "I usually gave little credence too" them didn't I? Not always... but usually!

[Potatoboy]

Alright then, it's settled, see the three of us just resolved a dispute withough getting "angry."

[cphilip]

No!!!! lets have a food fight!!!!! Just kidding...lets lighten up the mood here a bit shall we?

[vtec]

The only thing i can say now, is i hope your freind is going to send it in to agd or come here and ask for help nicley. Its not that hard... just answer a few simple questions..

actually he probably wont have any probrlems with the gun. from what i have read there has been no evidence of a gun being sent in or any evidence of a problem. for all we know he doesnt even own a mag. i think that Webby should check the logs of Vbulliten and see when the name was registered and what ip / domain registered it. then contact the service provider of this person and report that malicious actions on AGD webserver have been loggeed from that account. In my experience, when we have done this at work, the ISP shuts off the service to that customer.

[liigod]

Hey it was nice of him to consider other people by posting this. He jsut wanted people to understand what he had to go throgh so that they could take it into account when they decide on their gun. HE was simply trying ot help other people and let agd know that they had lost a customer. If u dont agree with him then dont bother posting cus everyoone else already friggen has posted saying that.

[cphilip]

Moderator hat on...

Time to lock this for flaming of Jon. No evidence offered hear say. Not substantiated.

Moderator hat off for a moment...

There is at this point nothing to even show this guy even owns a Emag. In fact there is some curcumstantial evidence that he does not. He will not respond. So it seems to me that he only came on here to complain about a problem we cannot find evidence even existed. And he doesn't want to fix. So... I am personaly concluding its a hoax. Each of you can decide for yourself.

Moderator hat back on...

So for flaming Jon and after fair warning to reply I am locking this thread. I will not ban him for this and he is welcome to explain and redeem himself whenever he likes. And if he is legitimate then he can contact AGD and work this out. So other than Marcia making a comment later on this I am done with mine. She will be along shortly.