"RetroBall", an "old school" paintball convention (the concept begins)

[rabidchihauhau]

yes I am

Tom, yes rabidchihauhau is Steve Davidson. But remember, its THE Rabid Chihauhau, misspellinig and all: many imitators, only one original -

Thanks for the support; AGD's initial price of entry is 1 rectangular spring for my six pak.....

Thanks for offering to make an official thread a 'sticky'. Having AGD's visible support will help move this happening along much faster.

I guess this thread is now the official thread.

So far as scheduling is concerned, I have no desire to step on anyone's toes. Its my understanding that we're staying away from the Shatnerball date by going into September, but if not, please let me know. The schedule is awful crowded these days, so its inevitable that we'll overlap with someone, somewhere. I'll take any advice and suggestions on dates, so long as its not too far out, and so long as we have a reasonable chance of decent weather.

I'm working my butt off right now with swag budgets, so that I can then put the sponsorship program together. Several people/groups have already volunteered to help:

Rob Rubin will be making sure that the word gets out to all of the internet communities

Lee (AO*FL) has offered to help in the reffing department

The Gunslingers from EMR have offered 'any help they can give'

Paintball News/Rene Boucher is on board

John Virelli (former Master Blaster) has offered to help and requests to do photojournalism at the event (he used to do that back in the day)

Texas Heritage is putting a team together and has offered to help

I've received several advance sign-ups to my hotmail account.

I need just a little time (like by the end of Monday of this coming week) to finish putting programs together and to get the basics of a website up, flesh out the marketing campaign and finalize (hopefully) the venue.

I want suggestions. I want participation. If nothing else, I want players to come away from this event being able to say that they had more to do with making it happen than any other event they've ever attended.

Thanks everybody - this level of enthusiasm and participation will help make this thing one of the best events ever.

[rabidchihauhau]

website

the following urls have been registered for use by us:

https://www.retroball.com

https://www.retroball.org

https://www.retroball.info

we'll have one main site with the others referring to it: in future, if an org pops up, the dot org will be for its use, the dot com will be for the event(s) itself and the dot info will be for forums, chat and the like.

In the interest of transparency, the registration cost about 45 bucks and has been registered to Rabid Chihauhau Promotions, a dba of Rabid Chihauhau Publications (which is the company that I do all my writing under and which published the Maxing book multi-years ago...)

Progress. Its a wonderful thing.

[GT]

Quick Q for us gun whoring folks..... I want to build a pump, however I need to know if the "RT" pumps are allowed?

[Machine]

Coooool!

Hey there Tyger How are things. Some of us guys up in Canada would probably be interested if it were at EMR or PBLI. We are having a real Pump craze here at our local fields. The whole club is either Snipers or Phantoms.

[rabidchihauhau]

To our Canadian brethern: location has not been finalized, but we'll let you know as soon as possible.

To the person asking about RT pumps - I presume you mean 'autotriggers'? (We will not allow any paintball nu-speak to tarnish old skool play )

Rules on equipment have also not been finalized. We're going to try and accomodate as many different styles as possible. Autotriggers would not be allowed under a stock class rule set, but would be allowed under a modified stock class rule set.

No matter how you slice it though, I'm sure everyone attending would be very interested in seeing your creation!

[rabidchihauhau]

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Everyone, lets get started right now: I want to hear what everyone thinks about the paint being supplied by answering two questions:

first - do you want one brand available or multiple brands available? One brand makes it easier to obtain a sponsor who will provide significant support, multiple brands gives us the opportunity to use the paints we used back in the day

second - the plan is to include paint with the entry fee. I think in general, 1 case per player will be sufficient - considering that players will be doing multiple events (a competition, open play, big game, for example): back in 15 player pump days, the average paint consumption was about 550 rounds per player per game. That would translate into 4 games on one case...(thus giving rise to the case-and-a-half usage per player for preliminary play). Others have suggested half a case per player, and it would definately be a mistake to go beyond 1 case, I think. So let me know, half a case or a case included with entry...?

[Lee]

i think full case. alot of people will want to test shoot other peoples markers.
tuning and chronographing will eat into a case as well.

[Brophog]

My feeling on paint is to let people buy it, not include it in a fee. Give as much flexibility as possible.

I've used pumps and pumps only for a long time now. I know personally that my paint consumption can deviate a considerable amount.

As far as paint brands, one of the things we must remember is the paint must be somewhat on the large side. Several of the companies today make smaller paint than what most of our pumps will require. Remember, most pumps have no such thing as a detent, so they rely on well fitting paint to prevent rollouts.

[Vendetta]

As far as paint brands, one of the things we must remember is the paint must be somewhat on the large side. Several of the companies today make smaller paint than what most of our pumps will require. Remember, most pumps have no such thing as a detent, so they rely on well fitting paint to prevent rollouts.

Exactly!

[Machine]

As far as Paint is Concerned there should be only one type...field paint only. remember that this is where the host field makes to most money. Having two different types will never satisfy everybody anyway. EMR uses "Blues" Blue Paint anyway. Diablo Blaze I think. when the sport started and people bought paint, there was not too much selection.
I will be happy as long as we don't have to pay those prices again. 25Cents/ball...ouch.

If you noticed this picture was from EMR inside the Fall Castle (sunday stock and Pump Play)with the Paintball Marshels.

[ClassicMagger]

Hey:

Well, if I am given plenty warning I can probably bring 25 or so pump guns at least for others if they arent TOOO picky. They wouldnt be cruddy either. Mostly phantoms, PMI's, Sterling or two, Bushmasters, and some other odds and ends. Just let me know.

On the Paint issue. One brand of paint is fine with me. Just make it Large bore and good. Nothing worse than CHOPPING in a PUMP.

On the types of play. I would think lets get as many of the OLD types. The 15 man capture the flag. Defend and Conquer. Or the best one yet. Which this one should be done. Have a big field. 007's and 8 rounds apiece and your only form of movement is Crawling. All the other things that we cherich most. But allow regular pump play to get as many people out as possible. Nothing worse than having a big game with no people.

ClassicMagger

[ogre55]

This sounds like a great event and I will do all I can to be there with as many of my pump totin' teammates as will come.

On the question of autotriggering and stock class: autotrgger should be allowed. While I know that strictly SC pumps as not allowed to have autotrigger, the majority of stock class pumps are SC phantoms which are capable of autotrigger. However, as long as you have horizontal feed (i.e. rock and cock) autotrigger is still a none issue.

Not allowing autotrigger would keep quite a few stock class markers out of the stock events.

Just my 2 cents.

Ogre

[rabidchihauhau]

thanks & keep it coming!

OK!!!

All suggestions are being honored for their intent and all are being taken seriously.

I will, from time to time, offer information and commentary on the suggestions as different needs come to light so that your suggestions may be focused and can take the information at hand into account (things are developing quickly).

'Field paint only' is basically the way its going to be - not BYOP - but this is not going to be a case of a 'local field hosting a few pump players'; this is going to be an EVENT. There will be sponsors, classes, discussions, dinners, play, story-telling, contests and etc.

Now I'm going to quote Charlie Holton (in a humourously intended aside): "Son, I have socks that have been playing longer than you."

Not directed at anyone in particular, but I've been amused by the 'needs to be big bore' commentary. Hey - I CRIED when the old formula nelson was no longer available and believe you me, you won't find a bigger, heavier, thicker-fill ball anywhere.

Most manufacturers make a 'big bore' brand these days. In asking the question in regards to paint brands, I was trying to find some direction in the approach that I make to the paint sponsor(s).

In all likelihood, it will be a single brand of paint, and I will make sure that it is 68 caliber, not 63.....

[Brophog]

I just wanted to point out that unique paint size requirements with pumps. Other than that, the paint isnt as big of a factor because I think you'll make a great effort to give us a quality product.

[ClassicMagger]

NO 62 Caliber you are saying or even 40 caliber. I guess that rules out a couple of my babies.

Whatever works bud. Nelson might be nice just to say Original Paintballs for Original Players or something.

But no worries just let us know when it is happening.

ClassicMagger