Now what FDA Synthetic Oil for the Automag?

[PBCCharlie]

Mineral oils, no matter how refined, will leave that sludge.

We have been using Outlast in 6 - TM7's (Mini engine) for over a year with no failures. Initially, we removed all other lubricants and then oiled the o-rings with Outlast. Thereafter, drop 8 drops in the ASA before each use. We did experience some initial sluggishness with the first few shots one day when it was below 25 degrees. On one marker, the properties of the oil allowed us to drop the inline pressure (normally 180-200) to 165 psi. The dwell went down as well from 28 to 23. See if one of the others will do that!

The best thing about using Outlast is that you just re-apply. There is no need to wipe the previous Outlast oil application off because there will be no sludge.

[Justus]

I've read over this thread and I think about Tri-Flow lube. It's a fully synthetic oil and has PTFE teflon in it like the SuperLube variant. How does the PTFE affect o-rings? Will that stuff build up? Is it really okay to use this type of oil in the valve through the ASA?

[Ando]

I been using Tri-flow for the last 5 yrs. 2 of those years my guns were in storage. I pulled them apart and was expecting a nasty dried up oily mess but everything was clean. O'Rings were all in great shape and didn't have to replace a single one. Highly recommend it.

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[georgeyew]

Teflon should not have a negative effect on orings. Lurker lube has Teflon in it also. A lot of people seem to really like it.

[Justus]

I must have skimmed right over that post, Ando. Sorry 'bout that! Sounds like it will work out just fine.

[Ando]

No worries.

[Justus]

What's everyone using for grease? Dow 33? 55? Slick Honey? Something else?

I've got Militec-1 grease for my 20ga O/U... would that work, or should I avoid using it?

(I'm intending to apply a thin film of grease on the regulator springs - cleaned my X-valve last night and found the grease to be pretty dirty, so I cleaned it all off and now intend to reapply fresh before gassing up)

[georgeyew]

I would not use Militec grease on paintball orings. I used Militec 1 oil on a Tippmann and it made the hammer oring very soft and gummy. I think that there is a solvent in Militec that is not compatible with orings.

I personally use Slick Honey.....or Dow 33 if I need something slightly thicker for the reg.

[Alpha {MWB}]

What's everyone using for grease? Dow 33? 55? Slick Honey? Something else?

I've got Militec-1 grease for my 20ga O/U... would that work, or should I avoid using it?

(I'm intending to apply a thin film of grease on the regulator springs - cleaned my X-valve last night and found the grease to be pretty dirty, so I cleaned it all off and now intend to reapply fresh before gassing up)

I m sure you know this, but that is the ONLY place you use Grease in a mag, in the rear spring pack.

[SkinnyHare]

wasn't it just plain old axle grease for the regulator spring pack??? i could have sworn i saw that in the ancient maintenance vid that came with my first mag... a quick whiff of the spring pack seems to agree, but i want to be 100% sure.

[Ando]

Don't know what it was but it smelled like A double S.

[georgeyew]

I think that AGD suggested axle grease or white lithium grease. The purpose of the grease is just to keep the spring pack from rusting. So essentially, any long lasting grease will work. I find that Slick Honey is very sticky and will last a long time on the springs.

[Justus]

I m sure you know this, but that is the ONLY place you use Grease in a mag, in the rear spring pack.

Yep! That's where I'm putting it.

Also, I've got White Lithium Grease at my local hardware store ($2 for 2oz), but no Slick Honey. I think I'll just use what AGD recommended, then. It shouldn't go anywhere outside the reg spring pack anyway.

Thanks for the replies!

[factoid]

Yep! That's where I'm putting it.

Also, I've got White Lithium Grease at my local hardware store ($2 for 2oz), but no Slick Honey. I think I'll just use what AGD recommended, then. It shouldn't go anywhere outside the reg spring pack anyway.

Thanks for the replies!

I'm not finding the thread now, but when I was trying to get this question answered a few months ago i found an old post by TK saying that white lithium grease is fine for the spring pack. It's what I use on my classic. Lithium grease seems to be a little less of a dirt magnet than axel grease also.