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  • Stayhuge
    Registered User

    • Aug 2007
    • 1590

    #1

    Problems w/ Pneumag!!!

    Hey everyone, I just had a chance to put together my pneumag. I am having problems with the MSV-2, I think(It's the 3 way that the trigger pushes.) anyway, When I air it up, and pull the trigger, it shoots. But it won't shoot again. I tried disconnecting the piston section, to see if it had to do with that, so I figured that when I pull the trigger, the air should go through since there is nothing on the other end to jam it up, but nothing happened. Then I disconnected the hose from the LPR and tried two things, one: I truned the air on, and there was air coming from the LPR, which means that that is feeding air. Then I tried blowing into the air in side of the MSV-2, and pushed the trigger arm. air went through fine. I need help!!! Has this ever happened to anyone? I should also say that I tried adjusting the LPR starting at the lowest level, and slowly increasing it. That didn't work either. I did buy the parts used, so is there a chance that the MSV-2 is busted? I didn't think it was, because it seemed to function properly when I blew into it with my mouth. Any advice is greatly appreciated. THanks everyone.
  • longi
    I love Real Ale alot. Hic!
    • Jan 2005
    • 490

    #2
    1...Does the lever catch any of the intellifeed mount? If it does, shave off some more of the mount.
    2...Are the hoses connected to ther right connections?
    3...If you take off the MSV-2, will it fire as it should?

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    • Stayhuge
      Registered User

      • Aug 2007
      • 1590

      #3
      No to all three. I tried everything. The lever still moved, but the air doesn't seem to flow through the MSV-2. I think that's the problem.

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      • Mongoose
        VenomousDesigns.com

        • Nov 2006
        • 1593

        #4
        contact cyberave68. he sells msv-2 and they work great.
        it sounds like you need a new one
        ....also try adding some oil to your msv-2 thrue the in port.

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        • cyberave68
          www.BigEvilOnline.com
          • Feb 2004
          • 1084

          #5
          Check to see if the sear is allowed to go far enuff forward to reset. If by chance the piston is to far back it would keep it from resetting... You should be able to here it click when it sets. Try this. Air it up and hold the trigg back for a couple of seconds. Then release it, You should be able to here a click, meaning the on/off has reset to fire. can be part of the problem...
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          • longi
            I love Real Ale alot. Hic!
            • Jan 2005
            • 490

            #6
            Try a another MSV-2 and see if that works. Good job they're cheap!

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            • Stayhuge
              Registered User

              • Aug 2007
              • 1590

              #7
              Well it appears that I have a problem with the LPR. When I gas up the marker with nothing attached to the LPR, the gas flow right through. Then I noticed it stops sometimes. If I attach the MSV-2, no air goes through to it. I think there might be a problem with the Tickler. It's brand new, is there anything that I should do? Can do? please help, has anyone had problems like this before? It's very frustrating. I appreciate any and all advice. Thanks in advance.

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              • MedicDVG
                Somebody call 911!
                • Jun 2004
                • 598

                #8
                try turning up the pressure in the LPR? Maybe it is set too low to properly actuate the piston.
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                • longi
                  I love Real Ale alot. Hic!
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 490

                  #9
                  Take the MPA-3 out from the frame, and gas the the gun up. Then fire the gun in rapid sucession to test the MPA-3 works properly without actually firing the gun itself. Look for hose kinks, especially at the back of the MPA-3 or any where it might get squashed and inhibit the air flow. Are you using a QEV in your setup? If so take that out to see if that is the problem. It will be one of only three problems, the hose is kinked/sqashed, a faulty component, or it is in fact connected up wrong (No offence!). Or the LPR requires more adjustmemt as has been already mentioned.
                  Pic's or a video would be a great help if possible.

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                  • Stayhuge
                    Registered User

                    • Aug 2007
                    • 1590

                    #10
                    I don't think the problem lies in any of the components of the Pneumag. I am 99% sure there is something wrong with the Tickler. When I gas it up and it is connected to the MSV-2, no air comes through. I know this for a fact, because I have the MSV-2 connected, and then I disconnect it by detaching the hose from the barb (I have one of those quick release barbs, that looks like a mini-macroline elbow). when I do this, nothing is coming out of the LPR. Then, while nothing is connected to the LPR, I gas it up, and the air comes flowing through, fairly strong too. For some reason, when the LPR senses resistance, it locks up, and doesn't allow any air through. I don't think there is anything wrong with the MSV-2, because when I blow air into it from my mouth, it appears to function fine. I think the issue is in the LPR. I tried taking it apart, but the truth is, I have no clue what the inside of this thing is supposed to look like. So even if there was something missing or out of place, I could do anything about it. If anyone knows where I can find a diagram of the newer Tickler, that might slove this issue. One thing that I noticed about the LPR is that when I turn the nob in clockwise, I can tighten it pretty far, to the point that it is hitting the barb. This makes me think that there is something missing from the inside and therefore it can tighten down pretty far. Does anyone know if this is normal?

                    For everyone that has given me answers so far, I really appreciate it!! Basically, I started at the sear, and I can actually move that myself with my finger, and the gun fires, so I don't think that the problem lies there. I have also seen the MPA-3 fire, so I don't think that's the problem. And, I am pretty sure the MSV-2 is ok. I think my next step is to just buy a new LPR and give it a shot, if nothing else seems to work. Hopefully, that will do it.

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                    • Spider-TW
                      U R techno-literate!

                      • Oct 2006
                      • 3554

                      #11
                      Have you put any oil through the tickler? I've had some awful sticky factory lube in other regulators.

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                      • Stayhuge
                        Registered User

                        • Aug 2007
                        • 1590

                        #12
                        I haven't tried that. Maybe that's it. I sure hope it is. I'll prob give it a shot when I get home. I still feel like there might be something out of place in it. If anyone can get me a breakdown pic of a Tickler, that would be great. I tried the WGP website, and couldn't find anything. Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

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                        • Spider-TW
                          U R techno-literate!

                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3554

                          #13
                          I was looking for one too, but haven't found it. I have seen a picture of one laid out, but I cannot find it. I figure mine will need help eventually.

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                          • rawbutter
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1463

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Stayhuge
                            If anyone knows where I can find a diagram of the newer Tickler, that might slove this issue. One thing that I noticed about the LPR is that when I turn the nob in clockwise, I can tighten it pretty far, to the point that it is hitting the barb. This makes me think that there is something missing from the inside and therefore it can tighten down pretty far. Does anyone know if this is normal?
                            This is normal. When the Tickler is unscrewed completely, it's "off." You screw it in further to increase the pressure.

                            As for what's inside.... nothing much. There's only an o-ring and a spring, if memory serves. I have a tickler at home that I can take apart and take some pics to show you what should be inside (I'll post the pics tonight).

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                            • Stayhuge
                              Registered User

                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1590

                              #15
                              Thank you so much!! I tried unscrewing the cap and airing it up, and then slowly screwing it on, but it doesn't seem to let any air through. I don't know what it could be. I'll just have to play around with it tonight. Pics would definately help. Thank you!!!

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