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  • Motorhead
    Sneaky Bastage ....
    • Nov 2007
    • 89

    #1

    New Mag owner .... help me identify this



    *Xtra barrel on top not to be included *

    Please give me a Noob tutorial on what this Mag is ?
  • [NA]WARLORD
    Registered User
    • Sep 2001
    • 764

    #2
    Looks like a generic parts gun thrown together with left over parts from other mags.

    Body is Classic
    Valve is 1/2 aftermarket/ 1/2 AGD Field rental.
    Trigger frame lookslike a modded ProLine or Benchmark
    Barrel - Dye Stainless ?
    drop - home made
    sight rail - 32 degrees
    asa - possibly AGD, could also be generic aftermarket

    Basically you got a mutt, but mutts have always been, in my experience, the best most loyal companions. As long as it shoots well, you shouldn't have any problems. Welcome to the Mag family

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    • Runamok
      http://www.automags.org/fo
      • Oct 2004
      • 866

      #3
      ? mag

      Warlord pretty well nailed it. Like he said ,though, "FrankinGuns" run like crazy. 8 of my 12 guns are mags. 5 of the 8 I built. they all run great. I just got an E-mag valve to finish my 12th and it outruns my factory tac one with a ULT in it. so if the price is good for you get the gun and try it out . I make almost all of my drops also. I like the bottle forward enough to balance the mag over the field strip screw. and with time and files and drills you can make it like no other.
      The first thing I'd do is put Three drops of oil in the air line, take off the barrel and shoot it to lube the insides. This is usually all the maintenance you need to do. Breif run down on trouble shooting: Hold the trigger back when you air it up. if it won't fire SLOWLY turn the Velocity up(1/8 " Allen wrench in the back of the reg. Clockwise=increase Counterclockwise= decrease)
      If it leaks out the back of the reg turn down your velocity. If it leaks down the barrel fire it once and hold the trigger back, if its leaking with the trigger back check the o-rings in the on/off.
      if it leaks down the barrel with the trigger forward check the power tube o-ring. This may seem complicated but there are plenty of more aggravating guns out there. I have a cocker...I know aggravated. The automag web site has breakdown pictures and parts lists. it helps if you learn the parts and how it works.
      Welcome to Mags!!! My first mag is still running and she's 12 years old.
      Last edited by Runamok; 11-19-2007, 06:40 PM.
      I took the road least traveled...now where the hell am I ?

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      • xxkylexx
        www.Automags.net
        • Oct 2007
        • 395

        #4
        That is one massive drop forward!!

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        • Runamok
          http://www.automags.org/fo
          • Oct 2004
          • 866

          #5
          Drop

          Yeah. I'd have bent the angle shallower off the frame to put the bottle more forward and then taken a cheap fore grip and drilled & tapped to attach the drop to. Very strong! My 1st mag is set up that way. Of course I have an Air America Armageddon w/ 114/3000 on it. output set at 775 psi . I can air up once and play woods all day. It's heavy though.
          Runamok
          Hey does anyone have an old Lvl 7 manual with the trouble shooting walk through in the back?
          I had one years ago and it helped me learn the inner workings of mags. If so Pm me and we'll figure out how to copy it. Thanks.
          This Noob could use a copy too.
          I took the road least traveled...now where the hell am I ?

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          • Spider-TW
            U R techno-literate!

            • Oct 2006
            • 3554

            #6
            Originally posted by [NA]WARLORD
            Body is Classic
            Valve is 1/2 aftermarket/ 1/2 AGD Field rental.
            ...
            How do you know that the valve is a field rental? I thought there was no difference on the right side. You wouldn't happen to know more about the history of this mag would you?

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            • one_quick_ta
              Gen. PJ Sparkles
              • Aug 2007
              • 310

              #7
              Originally posted by xxkylexx
              That is one massive drop forward!!

              I concur doctor that is the largest drop forward i have ever seen!

              it looks like it would position the tank in the perfect position to protect your shooting nipple!

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              • Coralis
                Hyper Micro
                • Aug 2005
                • 1285

                #8
                How do you know that the valve is a field rental? I thought there was no difference on the right side. You wouldn't happen to know more about the history of this mag would you?
                because the valve front was stamped field and the back half was stamped rental ... also they will not take a ult unless you drill out the bottom/base of the power tube

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                • Spider-TW
                  U R techno-literate!

                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3554

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Coralis
                  because the valve front was stamped field and the back half was stamped rental ... also they will not take a ult unless you drill out the bottom/base of the power tube
                  And you can see that in that picture?

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                  • Motorhead
                    Sneaky Bastage ....
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 89

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Spider-TW
                    And you can see that in that picture?
                    Received the Marker today, let me get home tonight and take some close up shots of this "Bastard" and then we can make sense of what it is

                    Thanks,
                    Scott

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                    • Coralis
                      Hyper Micro
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1285

                      #11
                      xray vision ..... besides i have an extra one sitting in my gear bag

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                      • Motorhead
                        Sneaky Bastage ....
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 89

                        #12
                        Here are a few shots of the valve. Forward SS part it says FIELD, under it, A'dvanced.
                        back aluminum section only manufacturers name.









                        In spite being a bastard, took the liberty of cutting the trigger down to fit a DYE single frame i had acquired prior to receiving the marker. played around with it a bid finding whats was needed to get link rod adjusted into back of trigger. Replaced the drop with a smaller one from the parts stash and WALA .... A spiffy AGD auto mag for a total investment of $110

                        Direct Co2 hookup and she fires just fine ... so far




                        Any feedback on valve still VERY welcome along with any Trouble shooting guide or old owner manual !!

                        Thanks,
                        Scott
                        Last edited by Motorhead; 11-21-2007, 12:24 AM.

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                        • [NA]WARLORD
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 764

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Spider-TW
                          And you can see that in that picture?
                          based on the op's description, we assumed it was a field rental valve, as those valves are the only ones with "field" stamped on their sides.. Based on previous posts on field rental valves of previous owners, we know what works and what doesn't work in these valves, without modification. Reasearch is your friend, spend some time with your friends

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                          • Spider-TW
                            U R techno-literate!

                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3554

                            #14
                            Originally posted by [NA]WARLORD
                            based on the op's description, we assumed it was a field rental valve, as those valves are the only ones with "field" stamped on their sides.. Based on previous posts on field rental valves of previous owners, we know what works and what doesn't work in these valves, without modification. Reasearch is your friend, spend some time with your friends
                            Hah! No research needed...just had to read the last line in the description (again!)
                            My xray vision has failed me lately and I thought my visible spectrum was going too. It's just my brain going out.

                            What a week/month/year...

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                            • [NA]WARLORD
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 764

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Spider-TW
                              Hah! No research needed...just had to read the last line in the description (again!)

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