probs with rt rail ule body mag

[Warbeast]

hi
in new here, treied to search but havent found anything

so heres my problem
i bought an ule warp feed body
with an rt rail
and a stock lvl7a automag
ant put all togehter
but the gun shoots not well, every 1 second maybee the trigger gets back in position or get stuck in rear position
oiled everything, worked a little better, but not playable

i have no clue and expirience about mags so i need helb
grip is stock,

gun is consistant if its shoots (300fps +-2fps)

and im from germany so im sorry if my english is bad, i try my best

greetings phil

[nevtangle]

First off, welome to AO.

As far as your problem goes, I'm not exactly sure what's going on but I'm sure someone here will.

I'm pretty sure the rail needs to be milled to accept the warp body. This could be your problem.

You said that you bought a complete lvl 7 automag and upgraded the body and rail correct? How does it shoot with the old body and rail?

Do you have the rt sear?

It kind of sounds like you're getting bolt stick which would be a problem with the powertube spacer.

Good luck

[Warbeast]

hm, the stock lvl7 mag shot normal, just tested iht a few dry shots

the rt rail came with sear and body
rail is already miled out to fit with the body ( the owner who sold it to me already played with this )
may it only work with an rt valve?
or are al these valves equal?
wantt have this pretty lady get on the run

[DSR75]

The problem isn't the classic valve with the ULE body and RT rail. I run a very similiar set-up (I have a warp tac body instead).

[athomas]

It sounds like you are getting bolt stick. It is probably due to minor differnces in the assembly between the old setup and the new one. You need to use a longer powertube spacer to fix this problem.

[senghing27]

I'm not understanding this clearly. Has the Body always been mounted on the rail with the trigger set up as it is currently?

When You gas it up, do you have pressure on the trigger?

Heres what I understand or I think I understand from your post.

You have a stock lvl 7 automag

You also have an RT rail and ULE Warp body already mounted together.

Check your sear... It may be interfering with the cycle of the bolt...

[maniacmechanic]

loosen your field strip ( the big screw that goes through the rear of the frame ) screw 1/4 turn , overtightening this screw will give you problems

[Warbeast]

hi
i disasembled the valve and powertube and everything i could, oiled it and reasabled it
now it runs a bit better, maybee 1 of ten shots wont work very well
problem is that the pind behind the trigger dont get in front position everytime

i made a video of it, and waiting tha youtube accepts is, and will show it then

the rail and the body where mounted on an other mag, he only sold the rail and body, because everything else were sold already
so
so the rail is alredy miled out to accept the ule warp body

thing mounted from the old lvl7a mag are: frame including trigger, screws, and the valve

thanks for ur advises, where gettin forward

greetings Phil

[athomas]

now it runs a bit better, maybee 1 of ten shots wont work very well
problem is that the pind behind the trigger dont get in front position everytime

That is called bolt stick. If the bolt doesn't fully return, the sear cannot go forward so the trigger rod remains back and the trigger stays limp.

If the bolt spring is weak, it can cause bolt stick problems. Another cause of level 7 bolt stick issues is a powertube spacer that is too short.

[Warbeast]

the spacer are these brass rings? i got ne parts kit or anything,
tried to upload a video, but youtube cuts it down to 1 sec, but it is 40 seconds long

[athomas]

the spacer are these brass rings?

Yes, the brass rings that fit in the powertube are spacers.The size is marked on the outside. You need one that is longer than the one you are using now.

[Spider-TW]

Yes, the brass rings that fit in the powertube are spacers.The size is marked on the outside. You need one that is longer than the one you are using now.

I pretty much skipped the 'spacer age' (pulled it out and threw it in the tool box). Does wear on the bolt bumper washer affect the spacer selection? Or is it sear wear?

[Warbeast]

heres the rl ule mag
the prob is here i cant get powertube spacers, im still looking for some

got an e mag lvl 10, maybe it works with it, :-)

but thanks for ur help, i'll keep in mind and try to get spacers.

Phil

[athomas]

I pretty much skipped the 'spacer age' (pulled it out and threw it in the tool box). Does wear on the bolt bumper washer affect the spacer selection? Or is it sear wear?

The bolt bumper protects the valve from getting damaged by the returning bolt. It really doesn't affect the spacer selection, but it must be there to prevent the bolt from going back too far.

Wear on the sear does affect the spacer selection. The bolt will sit farther forward if the sear is worn. If it sits too far forward, the bolt stem won't be in contact with the powertube oring and you will get a leak out the front.


Warbeast: If you can get a level 10, that would be your best bet anyway. It will work in your valve.