Getting automag bodies manufactured. "karta"

[trethompson2]

Lets say I have a guy that can make me bodies.. like the karta or any thing special like it.

Whats your opinion/advice.

[MedicDVG]

Have him get a good lawyer cause Colin will litigate his *** for violating his intellectual property.

[trethompson2]

Yeah thats what I figured.
So I need to sit down with this guy and make my own design I guess.
Any one know a good cad designer


Or can I cross-breed two bodies?

[secretweaponevan]

Or can I cross-breed two bodies?

1. Play some Barry White and sit a Karta next to an X-mag body.
2. Leave room.
3. ???

[trethompson2]

1. Play some Barry White and sit a Karta next to an X-mag body.
2. Leave room.
3. ???

Hell yeah.. now do I owe you a percentage or anything?

I have this guy that can mass produce things like paintball bodies. I sent him a picture of a Karta just because thats the best looking one out there. He said it wouldnt be a problem.

I had no intentions to rip off the guys design.. im not that much of a low-life. If I was I would be sharing a cell with Michael Vick

But I wanna do something. I even have a friend with a CAD machine that can cut me a sample to send to him. I just cant design it.
I need to find a college kid in need of some xtra money or something.

[snoopay700]

Well would it be a problem if he just had one made for himself? unless i'm mistaken, that's what it seems like he's asking.

[trethompson2]

He doesnt play paintball at all.
I wanna get the bodies made for a business adventure.
I just need something to send him.

And why do these bodies cost 400-500 dollars any ways? Gesh..

If I had a sample body in my hands I could sell it for half that or less.
I just gotta have something appealing.
I wont take their body ideas and designs.. but ill sure as hell try and take their business

[secretweaponevan]

He doesnt play paintball at all.
I wanna get the bodies made for a business adventure.
I just need something to send him.

And why do these bodies cost 400-500 dollars any ways? Gesh..

If I had a sample body in my hands I could sell it for half that or less.
I just gotta have something appealing.
I wont take their body ideas and designs.. but ill sure as hell try and take their business

Contact Dend78 or Engus . They had some cool designs going on in this thread . Perhaps you can work out a deal with them.

[trethompson2]

Thank you for the info.

I would love to get a body made that doesnt cost an arm and a leg for every one.

[punkrex]

They cost so much because the time it takes to program a cnc mill or lathe is pretty extensive. You also have design time. Tooling etc. It all adds up pretty fast. Getting a body out for cheap is pretty hard to. -- once everything is set up to run though, it goes pretty quick-- thats where there is power in numbers.

If you were looking to hand mill just a slug... your looking at like 30hrs of time. 30 hrs at $10 hr plus materials... and good luck finding a machinist to work for $10/hr

[tech-chan]

I'll design one on CAD for you for about 500000... lol have fun, if you get stuck on your design, tell me and I will help you out some.

[cougar20th]

He doesnt play paintball at all.
I wanna get the bodies made for a business adventure.
I just need something to send him.

And why do these bodies cost 400-500 dollars any ways? Gesh..

If I had a sample body in my hands I could sell it for half that or less.
I just gotta have something appealing.
I wont take their body ideas and designs.. but ill sure as hell try and take their business

The reason are simple. Ill use my day job as a example. The company charges approx 50$ and hour. It takes me approx 20 hour to design a body/rail after initial design and revisions. That equals out to approx $1000. The design has to be perfect or the mistake is expensive because of bad part.

Machine time runs 75-100$ a hour. so say a simple design takes a total of 6 hours to machine. That includes boring the inside, and cutting the outside. Plus you need to make some sort of fixture to hold the body. You need to have the tooling if not you need to buy it. Your looking at $1000

The cad and tooling costs can be spread out over the run of bodies. But the mill time is per body. So your looking at $1000+.

My examples are probably high on costs. I used the high costs to do the math. You should be able to find cheaper. But you get the idea. As punkrex said quantity helps the cost. Ussually the more you buy the cheaper the per unit cost is.

These prices are for the boston area that are full production machine shops & design shops. not home machine shops. and may varie around the country.

So you start with a AGD slug from Rogue at $190 or a xt slug at $150 then add in dsgin and machine time. That makes current offerings not so bad.
I think the kartas and dalaras were a good deal. Now that colin raised the price I feel they are costly.

Rogues rerelease of the chord v2 is also I feel a good deal especially as it comes polished/anodized and with extras. I think they are approx $375.

XT Bodies are $300 for body only. For $360 it includes a rail. But not anodized. I feel these are also a good deal.

Agd ule bodies are cheaper im guessing due to their much simpler outside milling and im guessing they buy in quantity.

I am not at all tring to discourage you. I feel the more differnt choices out there the better. Coping someone elses work wont do. I would be willing to work with you. no real timeline as i do this stuff for fun. But i will only send my files to one machinist currently. And i will not speak for his pricing you wuld have to figure that out with him.