Z Body/Misc. Questions

[lslcs4lif]

Hi everyone,

I haven't played paintball in a looooong time, but I'm looking to get back into it. I'm working out a deal for a mag that has something called a Z body on it. I found some information on it, but I was hoping someone could help me out a little more.

First of all, it hasn't been used for a while, and might need parts- in terms of the body. I'm not sure what parts it uses to make the ball backspin, but is there any place that carries parts for it?
Does anyone know if the manufacturer is still in business? I can't find a website for them.

Also...and I'm sure this has been asked many times but I couldn't really find an answer to this specifically- It comes with a ReTro valve, that doesn't necessarily mean it has the level 10, right? Thats only stock on the Z-Valve, if my info is correct.

Thanks for the info, I never was into Mags, but I want something more reliable this time around.

[snoopay700]

Hi everyone,

I haven't played paintball in a looooong time, but I'm looking to get back into it. I'm working out a deal for a mag that has something called a Z body on it. I found some information on it, but I was hoping someone could help me out a little more.

First of all, it hasn't been used for a while, and might need parts- in terms of the body. I'm not sure what parts it uses to make the ball backspin, but is there any place that carries parts for it?
Does anyone know if the manufacturer is still in business? I can't find a website for them.

Also...and I'm sure this has been asked many times but I couldn't really find an answer to this specifically- It comes with a ReTro valve, that doesn't necessarily mean it has the level 10, right? Thats only stock on the Z-Valve, if my info is correct.

Thanks for the info, I never was into Mags, but I want something more reliable this time around.

Z-body has a bigger bore and has a special screw, but i don't know if they're made anymore, i think arstron on pbn or someone had a z-body and found one or something, could've been someone else, but it won't be easy to find that part.

Also, ask if it has a level 10, only way to know.

[DevilMan]

They are not manufactured any more... and there is no source for the back spin parts that I know of... Believe me I wish I did.

I've been trying to get some copies of the one I have made for the extra body I have... but no luck yet.

Depending on the deal and the $$$ involved it could be a great deal or just a blah deal. All in all anymore I wouldn't buy the body for any other reason than it having a built in site rail, a cocker threaded barrel and I think the detent is also cocker threaded... and it is made from AL instead of SS and is just a bit "wierd" in the mag world.

They were "made" by Yoshi ???? Originally used back in 96-97?? But didn't make it to market til 2K or so. Yoshi is/was a member of the japanese team "The Far East Dragons" He built the body and had it patented.

Hiroo is/was the team captain at the time... their practice field is at Tama Hills in Tama, Japan.



Any other info ya need???

DM

[custar]

The Z screw can be easily replaced with a metric 5 or 6mm screw (IIRC) from your local hardware store.

custar

[snoopay700]

The Z screw can be easily replaced with a metric 5 or 6mm screw (IIRC) from your local hardware store.

custar

I stand corrected, i figured you'd need a rubber tip on it.

[MechMags]

Galactic Z, produced the Z-body and they are no longer around as far as i can tell. And the body never seemed widely accepted, thus unpopular no standard parts available from anywhere so far.

Bitz and pieces can be made/substituted... the Z-screw depressed a nubbin (silicone? neoprene?) down into the body which effected the back spin. If your body has the screw and no nubbin your screwed for the spin affect until you find a suitable replacement for it.

As long as the body wasnt totally abused you should be in good shape and neednt replace anything. I have a few, never picked one up new and have not had a problem to date with any part failure or missing.

As for the valve... you are correct, the ReTro valve didnt have the level 10 bolt as stock, it was an upgrade. As previously mentioned, if you can ask they one your getting it from, its the easiest way to be almost sure.

A large bore barrel is the best match for the Z-Body. At the time i believe the barrel of choice was Lapco's Bigshot at around .697 bore.

These Z-Body markers can be a blast to play with, at the '05 SPPL our Z-Body became the bane of many opponents, esp when they were shot from around a bunker... sweetness. Tilt left, fully engaged Z nubb and splat around the corner she flies.

Need anymore info, just let us know.

[DevilMan]

The Z screw can be easily replaced with a metric 5 or 6mm screw (IIRC) from your local hardware store.

custar

Correct... the screw can be replaced. But the little slip on part that the screw goes into can not.... And the little rubber nubbin that goes against the ball is also not available.

But there is a "fix" for that iffin you want it let me know.

I know I need the "carrier" that goes over the nubbin that the screw threads into.

Anyone have one???

DM

[custar]

Correct... the screw can be replaced. But the little slip on part that the screw goes into can not.... And the little rubber nubbin that goes against the ball is also not available.

But there is a "fix" for that iffin you want it let me know.

I know I need the "carrier" that goes over the nubbin that the screw threads into.

Anyone have one???

DM

The pad that actually imparts the ball can be replicated by 100% silicone caulk. It isn't a perfect replacement, but it can be made to work. I don't have a fix for the lack of carrier, sadly.

What's your fix, DM?

custar

[DevilMan]

The pad that actually imparts the ball can be replicated by 100% silicone caulk. It isn't a perfect replacement, but it can be made to work. I don't have a fix for the lack of carrier, sadly.

What's your fix, DM?

custar

Looks to be same as yours... Although I didn' use caulk. I used Black RTV sealant one time and I used hot glue another time.

The carrier though is what I need to find... so I've been trying to get someone with a small mill machine to copy the one I have but no luck yet.

The black RTV seemed to work the best for me.

DM

[MechMags]

i may be able to have that carrier made, just have to look into that this weekend.

as for an actual carrier DM, i could prolly be persuaded, convinced or bribed to let one go and find a new home at your place.

just let me know

[Smoothice]

any of you guys have pictures of what you are talking about.

I have a z body but know nothing about it.

Maybe a pic with an arrow pointing to the items needed would be great.

[DevilMan]

Hey Smooth... why didn't you ask when I was down there for the game???

I'll try and get you pics tonight of what we are talking about. If you look at the top of the Z in front of the feedneck you'll see a dovetailed mill with a rectangular hole in it. IF you have it all complete you can't see the hole, but you'll have a screw in the top of it with a spring on it. Got a pic of what you have???? I'll mod it and tell you what you are missing.

DM

[Smoothice]

Devilman-I didn't know you were the galactic z guru at the last game

Here are some pics. I know I am missing the set screw on the top and the screws that hold the breach in. Where they went I will never know. think I may be missing the nubin you guys are talking about too.

Any help would be great.

[DevilMan]

heheheee no worries Smooth... tis funny.. its not that I'm the guru... though I do know most things about them. I can't see your pics at work so I'll have to respond to them when I get home tonight.

But if you have the topcap that's metal and slides on the dovetail you can salvage it by getting other parts to go in for the other parts that are missing. If you are missing the top plate (can't see pics) then you are pretty much screwed..

But working with a guy to try and get some of the top plates made up.

We'll see.

Anyway, I'll reply more properly and try and get you photos when I get home.... OR just go to PBReview and look up Galactic Z and you'll be able to see the device in the pic at the top of the gun.

REREAD your post Smooth... Says you are missing the SET screw... that's the little screw that holds the carrier in place. I don't know the size offhand, I'll check at home. But it's easily replaced. If you have the spring/screw... Sounds like you do.. then you should be able to turn it all the way out and til it hangs and slide the carrier forward off the dovetail. DON"T try to remove the spring/screw from the carrier!!!! It's not made that way!!!! Slide the carrier off and you'll see a yellowish colored hmmmm silicone type fill in the hole underneath. In the middle of it you will have a clear hard piece of plastic that the spring/screw pushes against to push the silicone down into the bore to put spin on the ball. If you are missing the silicone or the hard clear plastic or the set screw ..... Don't worry!!!! All of those are fixable. The spring screw is as well though not as pretty. The main thing to have is that damn carrier. Anyway, I'll review the pics when I get home.

DM

[VTLO910]

So, where would we find a buyer for a Z Body...lol I got one I'm not sure I'm gonna keep...

P.S.

I LOVE BARTERING...!