9 oz. tank differ from 20 oz. on a Classic mag?

[mr doo doo]

when im using my 20 oz. CO2 tank with my mag, it tends to freeze up pretty quickly (even in warm weather), so i assume it is because of the amount of CO2 in the bottle. i'm running the tank directly from the ASA tot he valve, no expansion.

so i'm wondering, if i were to switch to a 9 oz instead, would this greatly reduce the freezing? if i used an expansion chamber with the 20 oz, would that clear up the problem?

[cyclic]

You need to use an anti-siphen in the 20 oz then to an expantion chamber and up to the valve.

Best bet is go high pressure air, but I also like co2 for its efficenty.

[cyclic]

You need to use an anti-siphen in the 20 oz then to an expantion chamber and up to the valve.

Best bet is go high pressure air, but I also like co2 for its efficenty.

[warbeak2099]

Anti-siphon the 20oz ($15) and get a decent x-chamber ($20-30). ACI Sub Zeros are great x-chambers.

[Old School 626]

Or go Old School (tm) and run 3 feet of hose coiled up around the feed to allow the liquid to heat up/expand into gas before it hits the valve. If you want to keep your vertical bottle that is...

[pmstc]

To answer your original question: no, switching to a 9 oz. would not help anything. What will help the most is if you get an anti-siphon tube installed and calibrated for your gun in your tank. An expansion chamber might help a bit as well. Honestly, you might as well spend the extra dough and get a nitrogen tank, unless for some reason you cant get fills anywhere near you.

[mr doo doo]

cool, thanks guys. yea, i already have nitro for my main mag, but i asked this question since i wanted to use CO2 for my woodsball mag . i was already going to use an expansion chamber (ANS Phase II ), but was just wondering about the CO2 tank. Anti-siphon i have heard about, but i'm too lazy to work with it. Thank you guys for posting.

[Bagheera]

Wouldn't an expansion chamber or a Palmers Stabilizer help?

[mr doo doo]

expansion chamber, i believe so, but a palmers, i think would harm it.

[Bagheera]

expansion chamber, i believe so, but a palmers, i think would harm it.

Interesting, I've heard nothing but good things about Palmers with co2. As a matter of fact, I picked one up, and will be using it on my rebuild shortly. I'll let you know how it goes.

[Looper]

Interesting, I've heard nothing but good things about Palmers with co2. As a matter of fact, I picked one up, and will be using it on my rebuild shortly. I'll let you know how it goes.

The Palmers Reg would help with the CO2 problem but you are basically adding a second regulator to the system because the back half of the AIR valve is a regulator. If you do use a Palmers crank it up so the output is as High as it will go so not to starve the AIR valve and run about 2000-4000 shots through the Palmer to break it in.

[secretweaponevan]

Has anyone done any testing with using a Stabilizer as the only reg with CO2?

Since 'mags velocity is directly dependant upon pressure, you could open the A.I.R. valve regulator (RVA) all the way and use the Stab to control velocity.

Since Stab's are legendary for controlling liquid CO2, and dual regging may cause shoot down, just using the Stab might be a CO2 solution.

Someone please test. I won't be able to test until tomorrow.

[mr doo doo]

hum, let me know how it goes Bagheera. but what is the price for one of those? lots of $$ i bet huh?